From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Eric Joyner <eric.joyner@amd.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Brett Creeley <brett.creeley@amd.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 0/5] ionic: Expose more port stats to ethtool
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 10:03:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260615100314.1c0caac4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f6de4ed-c687-4d1b-86fd-1c8e63e08fb3@amd.com>
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 18:34:23 -0700 Eric Joyner wrote:
> I could add the overflow and reset handling (I was working on it for a v5), but
> to me, it didn't seem like it was worth the effort to modify the stat from
> firmware instead of continuing to use the existing driver-calculated stat. It
> wasn't really a "can I do this" question but more "is it worth doing this?"
>
> To start, it didn't seem like there was a specific standard that the API
> expected; it looked like "copy straight from the adapter if you can, or just
> calculate something if you can't". It's hard to tell what the actual
> expectations for the interface outside of the struct comment since there aren't
> many drivers using it. The Mellanox and Broadcom driver stat handlers just read
> the link down count straight from hardware (though I don't know if those stats
> get reset on driver load or reboot and we're the outlier in the way our firmware
> behaves). The Intel drivers are similar to what we do now in the ionic driver,
> and they just count the link down events that the driver detects, but I know
> that they don't expose a link down count from the hardware. What we do now
> seems good enough for that purpose? It's bigger than 16 bits and gets reset on
> driver load, so why add more code to handle something that this seems to do well
> enough?
>
> But, I also still want the raw firmware stat because the firmware has a
> different lifetime than the driver, and so it will count link down events while
> the driver isn't loaded or in a state to receive link events. But since maybe
> that's only useful for debugging, it belongs in debugfs instead? I just thought
> drivers could more or less put what they want in `ethtool -S` output, so that
> seemed like an okay place to put it.
I sent a patch to delete this incorrect stat ASAP. Feel free to add it
to ethtool -S under a name that clearly indicates that it's _not_ the
phy down count in the next cycle.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-15 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-10 6:18 [PATCH net-next v4 0/5] ionic: Expose more port stats to ethtool Eric Joyner
2026-06-10 6:18 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/5] ionic: Fix check in ionic_get_link_ext_stats Eric Joyner
2026-06-10 6:18 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/5] ionic: Update ionic_if.h with new extra port stats Eric Joyner
2026-06-10 6:18 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/5] ionic: Report "rx_bits_phy" stat to ethtool Eric Joyner
2026-06-10 6:18 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] ionic: Report "link_down_events_phy" in ethtool statistics Eric Joyner
2026-06-10 6:18 ` [PATCH net-next v4 5/5] ionic: Add .get_fec_stats ethtool handler Eric Joyner
2026-06-12 9:18 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/5] ionic: Expose more port stats to ethtool Simon Horman
2026-06-14 20:54 ` Eric Joyner
2026-06-13 23:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-14 1:34 ` Eric Joyner
2026-06-15 17:03 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
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