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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, horms@kernel.org,
	3chas3@gmail.com, mitch@sfgoth.com,
	linux-atm-general@lists.sourceforge.net, dwmw2@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/9] atm: remove AAL3/4 transport support
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 13:46:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260616134629.41017dc4@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260613201032.77274-2-kuba@kernel.org>

On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 13:10:24 -0700
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:

> AAL3/4 is an obsolete connection-oriented ATM adaptation layer that has
> seen no real use since the SMDS-era hardware it was designed for (90s?).
...

From what I remember they weren't really used even then.
Apart from 'uncompressed 64k telephony audio' pretty much everything actually
used AAL5 so that data could be compressed.

I do remember PCI ATM cards that could be used for TCP/ATM to the desktop.
The equipment you needed in the network rack to make it work was stunning.
Completely killed by 100M ethernet over twisted pair.

	David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-16 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-13 20:10 [PATCH net-next 0/9] atm: remove more dead code Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] atm: remove AAL3/4 transport support Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-16 12:46   ` David Laight [this message]
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] atm: remove the unused send_oam / push_oam callbacks Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] atm: remove dead SONET PHY ioctls Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] atm: remove the local ATM (NSAP) address registry Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] atm: remove SVC socket support and the signaling daemon interface Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] atm: remove the unused change_qos device operation Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] atm: remove the unused pre_send and send_bh device operations Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] atm: remove unused ATM PHY operations Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-13 20:10 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] atm: remove orphaned uAPI for deleted drivers, protocols and SVCs Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-15 16:33 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] atm: remove more dead code Simon Horman
2026-06-15 18:24   ` Jakub Kicinski

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