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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vlad Poenaru <vlad.wing@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 17:31:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260701153154.a-n6eXNF@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260624093329.GZ48970@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2026-06-24 11:33:29 [+0200], Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So I really don't see why we should do this. This has been a 'problem'
> forever, and printk() is actually being fixed.

I just prepared v2 and apparently missed this. So let me postpone it…

A user triggered a warning under the rq lock so it is not a theoretical
problem which happens during development. printk is fixed it is just the
console driver that are lagging behind. The 8250 is probably the role
model that everyone is waiting for and once it becomes a NBCON it is no
longer affected by the "deferred" requirement here.
The problem was reproduced on netconsole which is a NBCON, too.

So we just ignore the problem because it is well known? I was hoping for
some duct tape until we have NBCON and threaded-legacy consoles.

Vlad: Were you doing something special to trigger the warning in
question or did it randomly trigger?

Sebastian

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-23 14:26 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:54   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-24  6:26     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24  9:17       ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24 15:24         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-30  9:21           ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-23 15:12   ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-23 15:49     ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24  8:37   ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-24 11:03     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24  9:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 10:08     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Use WARN_ON.*_DEFERRED() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24  9:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Peter Zijlstra
2026-07-01 15:31   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]

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