* [PATCH net-next] veth: set the real number of queues before registering the devices
@ 2026-10-16 6:51 Qiliang Yuan
2026-10-16 13:59 ` Wang Zhan
2026-10-16 15:43 ` Eric Dumazet
0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Qiliang Yuan @ 2026-10-16 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet, Jakub Kicinski,
Paolo Abeni
Cc: netdev, linux-kernel, Qiliang Yuan
Since commit 9d3684c24a52 ("veth: create by default nr_possible_cpus
queues"), each veth device is allocated with one rx and one tx queue
per possible CPU, and veth_newlink() reduces the real number of queues
to one unless the user asked for a number.
Both devices are already registered at that point, so
netif_set_real_num_tx_queues() and netif_set_real_num_rx_queues()
remove the sysfs objects of every extra queue that register_netdevice()
has just created, each one emitting an add and a remove uevent, and the
tx side also waits for an expedited RCU grace period. This happens with
RTNL held, twice per pair, and grows with the number of possible CPUs:
with 240 of them a veth pair emits about 1900 uevents, and udev
processing them slows down later sysfs work such as deleting devices.
Set the number of queues before registering each device. For a device
that is not registered yet this only updates the counters, so the extra
queues never appear in sysfs, and the error paths that undid a
registration are no longer needed.
Creating and then deleting 500 veth pairs, one ip -batch each, in a 16
vCPU guest, median of 3 runs, per pair:
before after
16 possible CPUs create 1644 us 520 us
delete 11822 us 9750 us
240 possible CPUs create 17253 us 1339 us
delete 17082 us 9941 us
uevents 1918 6
Signed-off-by: Qiliang Yuan <odys.yuan@gmail.com>
---
drivers/net/veth.c | 20 ++++++++------------
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/net/veth.c b/drivers/net/veth.c
index 38f263d4f06b4..92ad064567327 100644
--- a/drivers/net/veth.c
+++ b/drivers/net/veth.c
@@ -1875,6 +1875,10 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
netif_inherit_tso_max(peer, dev);
+ err = veth_init_queues(peer, tb);
+ if (err)
+ goto err_register_peer;
+
err = register_netdevice(peer);
if (err < 0)
goto err_register_peer;
@@ -1904,6 +1908,10 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
else
snprintf(dev->name, IFNAMSIZ, DRV_NAME "%%d");
+ err = veth_init_queues(dev, tb);
+ if (err)
+ goto err_register_dev;
+
err = register_netdevice(dev);
if (err < 0)
goto err_register_dev;
@@ -1917,16 +1925,10 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
priv = netdev_priv(dev);
rcu_assign_pointer(priv->peer, peer);
netdev_hold(peer, &priv->peer_tracker, GFP_KERNEL);
- err = veth_init_queues(dev, tb);
- if (err)
- goto err_queues;
priv = netdev_priv(peer);
rcu_assign_pointer(priv->peer, dev);
netdev_hold(dev, &priv->peer_tracker, GFP_KERNEL);
- err = veth_init_queues(peer, tb);
- if (err)
- goto err_peer_queues;
veth_disable_gro(dev);
/* update XDP supported features */
@@ -1935,12 +1937,6 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
return 0;
-err_peer_queues:
- netdev_put(dev, &priv->peer_tracker);
- priv = netdev_priv(dev);
-err_queues:
- netdev_put(peer, &priv->peer_tracker);
- unregister_netdevice(dev);
err_register_dev:
/* nothing to do */
err_configure_peer:
---
base-commit: 6b3e73774815910a39d8ca75b9ad7df963f61d50
change-id: 20261016-bug-veth-init-queues-before-register-eebe763a01a7
Best regards,
--
Qiliang Yuan <odys.yuan@gmail.com>
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* Re: [PATCH net-next] veth: set the real number of queues before registering the devices
2026-10-16 6:51 [PATCH net-next] veth: set the real number of queues before registering the devices Qiliang Yuan
@ 2026-10-16 13:59 ` Wang Zhan
2026-10-16 15:43 ` Eric Dumazet
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Wang Zhan @ 2026-10-16 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: netdev, Qiliang Yuan
Cc: Wang Zhan, Andrew Lunn, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet,
Jakub Kicinski, Paolo Abeni, linux-kernel
On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 14:51:05 +0800 Qiliang Yuan wrote:
> Since commit 9d3684c24a52 ("veth: create by default nr_possible_cpus
> queues"), each veth device is allocated with one rx and one tx queue
> per possible CPU, and veth_newlink() reduces the real number of queues
> to one unless the user asked for a number.
>
> Both devices are already registered at that point, so
> netif_set_real_num_tx_queues() and netif_set_real_num_rx_queues()
> remove the sysfs objects of every extra queue that register_netdevice()
> has just created, each one emitting an add and a remove uevent, and the
> tx side also waits for an expedited RCU grace period. This happens with
> RTNL held, twice per pair, and grows with the number of possible CPUs:
> with 240 of them a veth pair emits about 1900 uevents, and udev
> processing them slows down later sysfs work such as deleting devices.
>
> Set the number of queues before registering each device. For a device
> that is not registered yet this only updates the counters, so the extra
> queues never appear in sysfs, and the error paths that undid a
> registration are no longer needed.
>
> Creating and then deleting 500 veth pairs, one ip -batch each, in a 16
> vCPU guest, median of 3 runs, per pair:
>
> before after
> 16 possible CPUs create 1644 us 520 us
> delete 11822 us 9750 us
> 240 possible CPUs create 17253 us 1339 us
> delete 17082 us 9941 us
> uevents 1918 6
>
> Signed-off-by: Qiliang Yuan <odys.yuan@gmail.com>
Looks fine to me. virtio-net uses this ordering too. I checked that
veth's ndo_init() leaves the real queue counts alone, and I don't see
any missing cleanup after the move.
I ran some basic veth tests under QEMU TCG; no regressions found.
Reviewed-by: Wang Zhan <wang.zhan@smartx.com>
Tested-by: Wang Zhan <wang.zhan@smartx.com>
BTW, Li RongQing also posted a net fix changing veth_init_queues(peer, tb)
to use tbp, so there may be a conflict.
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20261014013620.2497-1-lirongqing@baidu.com/
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* Re: [PATCH net-next] veth: set the real number of queues before registering the devices
2026-10-16 6:51 [PATCH net-next] veth: set the real number of queues before registering the devices Qiliang Yuan
2026-10-16 13:59 ` Wang Zhan
@ 2026-10-16 15:43 ` Eric Dumazet
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eric Dumazet @ 2026-10-16 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Qiliang Yuan
Cc: Andrew Lunn, David S. Miller, Jakub Kicinski, Paolo Abeni, netdev,
linux-kernel
Le ven. 16 oct. 2026 à 08:51, Qiliang Yuan <odys.yuan@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Since commit 9d3684c24a52 ("veth: create by default nr_possible_cpus
> queues"), each veth device is allocated with one rx and one tx queue
> per possible CPU, and veth_newlink() reduces the real number of queues
> to one unless the user asked for a number.
>
> Both devices are already registered at that point, so
> netif_set_real_num_tx_queues() and netif_set_real_num_rx_queues()
> remove the sysfs objects of every extra queue that register_netdevice()
> has just created, each one emitting an add and a remove uevent, and the
> tx side also waits for an expedited RCU grace period. This happens with
> RTNL held, twice per pair, and grows with the number of possible CPUs:
> with 240 of them a veth pair emits about 1900 uevents, and udev
> processing them slows down later sysfs work such as deleting devices.
>
> Set the number of queues before registering each device. For a device
> that is not registered yet this only updates the counters, so the extra
> queues never appear in sysfs, and the error paths that undid a
> registration are no longer needed.
>
> Creating and then deleting 500 veth pairs, one ip -batch each, in a 16
> vCPU guest, median of 3 runs, per pair:
>
> before after
> 16 possible CPUs create 1644 us 520 us
> delete 11822 us 9750 us
> 240 possible CPUs create 17253 us 1339 us
> delete 17082 us 9941 us
> uevents 1918 6
>
> Signed-off-by: Qiliang Yuan <odys.yuan@gmail.com>
> ---
> drivers/net/veth.c | 20 ++++++++------------
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/veth.c b/drivers/net/veth.c
> index 38f263d4f06b4..92ad064567327 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/veth.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/veth.c
> @@ -1875,6 +1875,10 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
>
> netif_inherit_tso_max(peer, dev);
>
> + err = veth_init_queues(peer, tb);
> + if (err)
> + goto err_register_peer;
> +
> err = register_netdevice(peer);
> if (err < 0)
> goto err_register_peer;
> @@ -1904,6 +1908,10 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
> else
> snprintf(dev->name, IFNAMSIZ, DRV_NAME "%%d");
>
> + err = veth_init_queues(dev, tb);
> + if (err)
> + goto err_register_dev;
> +
> err = register_netdevice(dev);
> if (err < 0)
> goto err_register_dev;
> @@ -1917,16 +1925,10 @@ static int veth_newlink(struct net_device *dev,
> priv = netdev_priv(dev);
> rcu_assign_pointer(priv->peer, peer);
> netdev_hold(peer, &priv->peer_tracker, GFP_KERNEL);
> - err = veth_init_queues(dev, tb);
> - if (err)
> - goto err_queues;
>
> priv = netdev_priv(peer);
> rcu_assign_pointer(priv->peer, dev);
> netdev_hold(dev, &priv->peer_tracker, GFP_KERNEL);
> - err = veth_init_queues(peer, tb);
Orthogonal to your patch, but here we should have used @tbp instead of @tb.
# ip link add va type veth peer vb numtxqueues 4
-> vb has 4 tx queues, but only 1 real tx queue, which is quite unexpected.
# ip -d link sh vb
13: vb@va: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,M-DOWN> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether e2:53:93:f3:f4:f8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff promiscuity 0
allmulti 0 minmtu 68 maxmtu 65535
veth addrgenmode eui64 numtxqueues 4 numrxqueues 8 gso_max_size
65536 gso_max_segs 65535 tso_max_size 524280 tso_max_segs 65535
gro_max_size 65536 gso_ipv4_max_size 65536 gro_ipv4_max_size 65536
# ls /sys/class/net/vb/queues/
rx-0 tx-0
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