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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Chris Arges" <carges@cloudflare.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>, "Phil Sutter" <phil@nwl.cc>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowangio@gmail.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	"Max Krasnyansky" <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
	"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 6/8] net: add a sysctl to opt out of virtio net hdr checksum validation
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 16:22:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261020162048-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <willemdebruijn.kernel.2c9decc16892@gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2026 at 04:19:41PM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2026 at 03:54:23PM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > The ingress validation as implemented by the previous
> > > > patch is stricter than what it replaced: GSO
> > > > packets whose checksum metadata matches no transport header are
> > > > dropped, and non-GSO ones get their checksum completed in place.
> > > > Such packets used to pass with the metadata unvalidated,
> > > > and with no overhead.
> > > > 
> > > > I judge that this should not affect any deployments, but there is still
> > > > some risk that it does.  In case a deployment depends on them anyway,
> > > > provide a per-netns switch to get the old behavior back:
> > > > 
> > > > echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/core/virtio_net_hdr_csum_check
> > > > 
> > > > The default is validating.
> > > > 
> > > > Assisted-by: LLM
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/net.rst | 19 ++++++++
> > > >  include/linux/virtio_net.h               | 23 +++++++++
> > > >  include/net/netns/core.h                 |  1 +
> > > >  net/core/dev.c                           |  6 +++
> > > >  net/core/net_namespace.c                 |  1 +
> > > >  net/core/sysctl_net_core.c               | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  6 files changed, 110 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/net.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/net.rst
> > > > index e586e17fc7a5..b1a1c4714b22 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/net.rst
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/net.rst
> > > > @@ -246,6 +246,25 @@ processes are dropped unless socket option SOF_TIMESTAMPING_OPT_TSONLY is set.
> > > >  Default: 1 (on)
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > +virtio_net_hdr_csum_check
> > > > +-------------------------
> > > 
> > > virtio_net_hdr_validate? In case we do have to add more validation
> > > later.
> > 
> > If you insist. My worry would be what if that validation is again
> > user-visible somehow and we need to distinguish users who want
> > to disable that future thing and users who want to disable
> > just this current thing.
> > 
> > Hard to predict the future. But I will go with your intuition.
> 
> Thanks, but definitely feel free to ignore my suggestions.
> 
> My intuition would be to define as
> 
> 0: off
> 1: everything one
> 2+: sadly needed fudge values because we keep having to tighten,
>     but some crazy workloads need to opt-out to avoid breakage.

yes you said i just do not get how it will work for userspace,
maybe u can explain?

and what specifically is needed right now, while we
just have 1.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-20 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-19 12:03 [PATCH net v3 0/8] more virtio-net csum hardening Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 1/8] net: account for ingress-resolved virtio net hdr state Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-20 19:27   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-20 19:38     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-20 20:02       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-20 20:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 2/8] um: vector: honor virtio net hdr conversion failures Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-20 19:28   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 3/8] um: vector: trim skbs before verifying the header Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 4/8] virtio_net: parse tunnel csum_start little-endian Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 5/8] net: resolve uncommon partial checksums at ingress Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-20 19:44   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-20 21:49     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 6/8] net: add a sysctl to opt out of virtio net hdr checksum validation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 14:19   ` Björn Töpel
2026-10-20 14:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-20 19:54   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-20 20:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-20 20:19       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-10-20 20:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-10-20 20:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 7/8] net: add ip4_parse() Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:03 ` [PATCH net v3 8/8] virtio_net: cleanup protocol calculation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 12:09 ` [PATCH net v3 0/8] more virtio-net csum hardening netdev-bot+sinfo
2026-10-19 12:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-19 16:51 ` Chris Arges

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