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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Birger Koblitz <mail@birger-koblitz.de>
Cc: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] ax88179_178a: Add support for ethtool pause parameter configuration
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 17:27:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33b35184-e962-44ca-b0c1-ba9beb08c341@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <833f79c1-39be-4c04-bc4f-3ec7a983ab56@birger-koblitz.de>

> For me the way ahead is to stick with the simple MII-driver and just make sure that
> features such as pause configuration are properly implemented. Please tell me if that
> makes sense or there are better ways.

The better way forward is to refuse to support the device in Mainline,
until the vendor produces a firmware version which is not FUBAR.

The PHY ID is a contract, it states compatibility. If different
firmware gives it a different API, it must have a different ID.

Mainline can push back on vendors. We can say only their out of tree
vendor crap driver will be used with their hardware, if they don't
follow the basic rules as defined in 802.3.

There are plenty of USB dongles what just work in Linux, because they
follow the rules. So i don't see it as being a particularly big loss
to Mainline.

   Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-01  5:42 [PATCH 0/9] ax88179_178a: Add support for AX88179A-based chips Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 1/9] ax88179_178a: Fix endianness of pause watermark register Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01 14:57   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 2/9] ax88179_178a: Add HW support for AX179A-based chips Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01 15:05   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-07  9:11   ` Paolo Abeni
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 3/9] ax88179_178a: Add support for AX88179A MMD access Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01  9:53   ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 4/9] ax88179_178a: Obtain speed and duplex from Interrupt URB Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 5/9] ax88179_178a: Add support for ethtool pause parameter configuration Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01 10:04   ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-07-01 15:08     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-01 16:22       ` Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01 17:05         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-01 17:45           ` Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01 18:41             ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-06  6:28           ` Birger Koblitz
2026-07-07 15:27             ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 6/9] ax88179_178a: Add VLAN offload support for AX88179A Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 7/9] ax88179_178a: Add ethtool get_drvinfo Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 8/9] ax88179_178a: Add support for AX88179A/772D/279 EEPROM access Birger Koblitz
2026-07-01  5:42 ` [PATCH 9/9] ax88179_178a: Add AX179A/AX279 multicast configuration Birger Koblitz

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