From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Chengen Du <chengen.du@canonical.com>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] af_packet: Handle outgoing VLAN packets without hardware offloading
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 09:28:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <664ca1651b66_14f7a8294cb@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eaf33ba66cbdc639b0209b232f892ec8a52a1f21.camel@redhat.com>
Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-05-21 at 11:31 +0800, Chengen Du wrote:
> > I would appreciate any suggestions you could offer, as I am not as
> > familiar with this area as you are.
> >
> > I encountered an issue while capturing packets using tcpdump, which
> > leverages the libpcap library for sniffing functionalities.
> > Specifically, when I use "tcpdump -i any" to capture packets and
> > hardware VLAN offloading is unavailable, some bogus packets appear.
Bogus how exactly?
> > In this scenario, Linux uses cooked-mode capture (SLL) for the "any"
> > device, reading from a PF_PACKET/SOCK_DGRAM socket instead of the
> > usual PF_PACKET/SOCK_RAW socket.
Trying to extract L2 or VLAN information from the any device may be
the real issue here.
> >
> > Using SOCK_DGRAM instead of SOCK_RAW means that the Linux socket code
> > does not supply the packet's link-layer header.
> > Based on the code in af_packet.c, SOCK_DGRAM strips L2 headers from
> > the original packets and provides SLL for some L2 information.
>
> > From the receiver's perspective, the VLAN information can only be
> > parsed from SLL, which causes issues if the kernel stores VLAN
> > information in the payload.
ETH_HLEN is pulled, but the VLAN tag is still present, right?
> >
> > As you mentioned, this modification affects existing PF_PACKET receivers.
> > For example, libpcap needs to change how it parses VLAN packets with
> > the PF_PACKET/SOCK_RAW socket.
> > The lack of VLAN information in SLL may prevent the receiver from
> > properly decoding the L3 frame in cooked mode.
> >
> > I am new to this area and would appreciate it if you could kindly
> > correct any misunderstandings I might have about the mechanism.
> > I would also be grateful for any insights you could share on this issue.
> > Additionally, I am passionate about contributing to resolving this
> > issue and am willing to work on patches based on your suggestions.
>
> One possible way to address the above in a less invasive manner, could
> be allocating a new TP_STATUS_VLAN_HEADER_IS_PRESENT bit, set it for
> SLL when the vlan is not stripped by H/W and patch tcpdump to interpret
> such info.
Any change must indeed not break existing users. It's not sufficient
to change pcap/tcpdump. There are lots of other PF_PACKET users out
there. Related, it is helpful to verify that tcpdump agrees to a patch
before we change the ABI for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-21 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-20 7:03 [PATCH] af_packet: Handle outgoing VLAN packets without hardware offloading Chengen Du
2024-05-20 18:35 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-21 3:31 ` Chengen Du
2024-05-21 8:35 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-05-21 13:28 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2024-05-22 14:27 ` Chengen Du
2024-05-22 18:39 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-22 19:54 ` alexandre.ferrieux
2024-05-23 14:17 ` Chengen Du
2024-05-23 14:52 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-23 14:56 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-24 14:04 ` Chengen Du
2024-05-25 15:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-25 20:55 ` alexandre.ferrieux
2024-05-26 15:25 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-27 0:18 ` alexandre.ferrieux
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