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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Chengen Du <chengen.du@canonical.com>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 davem@davemloft.net,  edumazet@google.com,  kuba@kernel.org,
	 alexandre.ferrieux@orange.com,  netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] af_packet: Handle outgoing VLAN packets without hardware offloading
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 10:52:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <664f5829d6485_1b5d2429420@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPza5qfam1DBffBJWjOrMsSW8J+6ans7apeX=64YVCixBWX-tQ@mail.gmail.com>

Chengen Du wrote:
> Hi Willem, all,
> 
> Thank you for highlighting the QinQ and L2.5 issues.
> These are areas I am not very familiar with, and I appreciate your guidance.
> 
> To address the QinQ and L2.5 issues, the third approach seems like a
> promising solution.
> If I understand correctly, in the QinQ scenario, we need to preserve
> the link layer header because it includes two VLAN tags.
> For the L2.5 issue, we can adjust by pulling mac_len instead of
> skb_network_offset.
> In summary, we may need to retain the link layer header to enable
> receivers to parse different protocol scenarios.
> 
> Although this approach can resolve all issues, it requires the
> receiver's cooperation to implement the parsing logic of the link
> layer header.

I was about to bring up the same.

Existing BPF filters may expect L3 headers. A change like this will
have to be opt-in through a socket option.

Since I see no better option to support all L2.5 protocols, if this
is something that tcpdump/pcap would use, we should do it.

> I am concerned that this implementation may take time and adding it
> directly into the kernel could place time pressure on existing users.
> 
> I would like to propose some ideas and welcome your thoughts on them.
> Firstly, I suggest we address the VLAN issue using the second
> approach, as it appears to be a bug and can be resolved without
> affecting current users.

Agreed. Let me respond in more detail to your original patch.

> Secondly, we could introduce the link layer header preservation via a
> new packet socket flag.
> Receivers could implement and test this by enabling the socket flag.
> This way, we avoid disrupting existing receiver behavior while
> providing the capability to parse more complex protocols.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-23 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-20  7:03 [PATCH] af_packet: Handle outgoing VLAN packets without hardware offloading Chengen Du
2024-05-20 18:35 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-21  3:31   ` Chengen Du
2024-05-21  8:35     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-05-21 13:28       ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-22 14:27         ` Chengen Du
2024-05-22 18:39           ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-22 19:54             ` alexandre.ferrieux
2024-05-23 14:17               ` Chengen Du
2024-05-23 14:52                 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2024-05-23 14:56 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-24 14:04   ` Chengen Du
2024-05-25 15:51     ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-25 20:55       ` alexandre.ferrieux
2024-05-26 15:25         ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-27  0:18           ` alexandre.ferrieux

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