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From: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
To: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 "Daniel Zahka" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>,
	 <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
	 "Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 "Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,  <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kernel-team@cloudflare.com>,
	 "Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	 "Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 "Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	 "Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
	 "Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	 "Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	 "Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	 "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	 "Emil Tsalapatis" <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 "Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	 "Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	 "Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	 "Florian Westphal" <fw@strlen.de>,
	 "Jack Wang" <163wangjack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 03/14] bpf: Make BPF skb extension survive packet scrubbing
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2026 14:37:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ik3kl1lr.fsf@cloudflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLSJ0UIY3DSY.3JWS6CS3TX0IP@gmail.com> (Alexei Starovoitov's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2026 09:00:23 +0000")

On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 09:00 AM GMT, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue Sep 29, 2026 at 8:32 PM UTC, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
>> Everything pushed to:
>>
>> https://github.com/jsitnicki/skb-metadata-bench/tree/main/profile
>
> looks like you had lockdep on, so all the data and conclusions
> likely do not correlate to production.
> Pls fix and remeasure everything.

Thanks. This makes much more sense now.

1) Lockdep was on. Fixed. Configs published to [1].

2) Switched from mpstat to bpf_stats since bpf-skb-ext cost was so low
now that it was drowning in the noise. skb extension teardown is not
accounted for.

3) With rhash, I noticed churn from auto-shrinking in map_update_elem
(can be seen in gtpchurn profile [2]). LLM suggested a one-line fix to
set min_size from map_extra hint. Benchmarks ran with this patch [3].

New results (prog runtime from bpf_stats in nsec):

 ~/bench $ just bpfstats
python3 tools/bpfstats.py --agg results-1 results-2 results-3
variant          prog              results-1  results-2  results-3    total mean ± spread
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ext-cnt          cnt_ingress            35.9       35.6       35.5      106.7 ± 2.2
                 cnt_egress             70.3       73.5       69.2

ext-ext          ext_write             199.3      198.9      203.0      263.8 ± 1.9
                 ext_read               63.1       64.1       63.2

gtp-cnt          cnt_ingress            34.4       34.3       34.6       94.6 ± 2.5
                 cnt_egress             59.9       58.1       62.7

gtp-gtp          gtp_write             531.0      555.9      567.2      920.9 ± 34.5
                 gtp_read               85.1       87.5       91.2
                 gtp_skb_free          267.1      283.9      293.9

gtp-gtpchurn     gtp_write             784.9      782.6      830.6     1190.8 ± 44.2
                 gtp_read               82.5       82.3       88.6
                 gtp_skb_free          297.5      294.7      328.7

gtp-gtplru       gtplru_write          394.9      391.9      394.5      542.8 ± 1.1
                 gtplru_read            48.2       49.4       48.9
                 gtplru_skb_free        99.9      100.4      100.5

gtp-gtp is with nelem_hint+min_size hint set.
gtp-gtpchurn is without it (map_extra=0).
perf reports and flamegraphs also updated [4].

[1] https://github.com/jsitnicki/skb-metadata-bench/tree/main/configs
[2] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jsitnicki/skb-metadata-bench/refs/heads/main/profile/perf.gtp-gtpchurn.svg
[3] https://github.com/jsitnicki/skb-metadata-bench/blob/main/patches/rht-no-shrink-churn.patch
[4] https://github.com/jsitnicki/skb-metadata-bench/tree/main/profile

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-02 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-10 14:02 [PATCH net-next v2 00/14] skb extension for BPF metadata Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/14] bpf: Introduce per-packet metadata storage for BPF programs Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-11 10:19   ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/14] bpf: Allow access to bpf_sock_ops_kern->skb Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/14] bpf: Make BPF skb extension survive packet scrubbing Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-23 17:46   ` Daniel Zahka
2026-09-24 16:52     ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-25  1:07       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-25 19:18         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-09-25 19:51           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-25 20:20             ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-09-25 20:27               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-28 15:52                 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-28 16:14                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-29 20:32                     ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-30  9:00                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-02 12:37                         ` Jakub Sitnicki [this message]
2026-09-25 12:03       ` Daniel Zahka
2026-09-25 15:24         ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/14] selftests/bpf: Add tests for bpf_dynptr_from_skb_ext Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext on cloned skbs Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext survival across veth and GRE Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from cgroup_skb and sk_filter hooks Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from sock_ops and LSM hooks Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from kfree_skb tracepoint Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from netfilter hook Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext from LWT in, out, and xmit hooks Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from seg6local End.BPF hook Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from sk_skb stream verdict hook Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/14] selftests/bpf: Use non-trivial test payload in xdp_context tests Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 15:56 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/14] skb extension for BPF metadata Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-11 11:33   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-12  3:32     ` Alexei Starovoitov

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