From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH pci] PCI: don't skip probing entire device if first fn OF node has status = "disabled"
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 17:27:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZHZ4TFjFLrKeHPGi@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230530220436.fooxifm47irxqlrj@skbuf>
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:04:36AM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 04:58:55PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > Can you write this description in terms of PCI topology? The
> > nitty-gritty SERDES details are not relevant at this level, except to
> > say that Function 0 is present in some cases but not others, and when
> > it is not present, *other* functions may be present.
>
> No. It is to say that within the device, all PCIe functions (including 0)
> are always available and have the same number, but depending on SERDES
> configuration, their PCIe presence might be practically useful or not.
> So that's how function 0 may end having status = "disabled" in the
> device tree.
>
> > Sigh. Per spec (PCIe r6.0, sec 7.5.1.1.9), software is not permitted
> > to probe for Functions other than 0 unless "explicitly indicated by
> > another mechanism, such as an ARI or SR-IOV Capability."
> >
> > Does it "work" to probe when the spec prohibits it? Probably. Does
> > it lead to some breakage elsewhere eventually? Quite possibly. They
> > didn't put "software must not probe" in the spec just to make
> > enumeration faster.
> >
> > So I'm a little grumpy about further complicating this already messy
> > path just to accommodate a new non-compliant SoC. Everybody pays the
> > price of understanding all this stuff, and it doesn't seem in balance.
> >
> > Can you take advantage of some existing mechanism like
> > PCI_SCAN_ALL_PCIE_DEVS or hypervisor_isolated_pci_functions() (which
> > could be renamed and made more general)?
>
> Not responding yet to the rest of the email since it's not clear to me
> that you've understood function 0 is absolutely present and responds
> to all config space accesses - it's just disabled in the device tree
> because the user doesn't have something useful to do with it.
Ah, you're right, sorry I missed that. Dispensing with the SERDES
details would make this more obvious.
Not sure why this needs to change the pci_scan_slot() path, since
Function 0 is present and enumerable even though it's not useful in
some cases. Seems like something in pci_set_of_node() or a quirk
could do whatever you need to do.
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-30 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-21 11:51 [PATCH pci] PCI: don't skip probing entire device if first fn OF node has status = "disabled" Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-29 20:48 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-30 21:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-30 22:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-30 22:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2023-05-30 23:15 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-31 16:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-31 16:58 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-31 20:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-06-01 8:11 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-01 15:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-06-01 16:33 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-01 17:51 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-06-01 22:15 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-02 4:06 ` 陈华才
2023-06-02 7:21 ` Liu Peibao
2023-06-02 7:36 ` Jianmin Lv
2023-06-02 10:16 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-03 2:35 ` Jianmin Lv
2023-06-04 8:55 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-05 0:59 ` Jianmin Lv
2023-06-05 9:34 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-16 2:12 ` Jianmin Lv
2023-06-16 17:57 ` Rob Herring
2023-08-03 10:39 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-03 11:34 ` Vladimir Oltean
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