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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
Cc: Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>,
	 "Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Schmidt, Michal" <mschmidt@redhat.com>,
	 Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Vaananen, Pasi" <pvaanane@redhat.com>,
	 "Oros, Petr" <poros@redhat.com>,
	Prathosh Satish <Prathosh.Satish@microchip.com>,
	 Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] dpll: add DPLL_PIN_TYPE_INT_NCO pin type
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:45:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajzqUTuHDtMRvd1P@FV6GYCPJ69> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f8fe4e0-72d8-48a6-96ad-d1650919d2df@linux.dev>

Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 05:57:35PM +0200, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev wrote:
>On 19/06/2026 18:07, Ivan Vecera wrote:

[...]

>> 
>> Proposal:
>> 1) new pin capability
>>     - name: state-connected-override
>>     - doc: pin state can be changed to connected in any DPLL mode
>> 
>> 2) new NCO pin type to switch the DPLL to NCO mode when connected
>> 
>> 3) automatic-only DPLL
>>     - should expose NCO pin with state-connected-override capability
>> 
>> 4) manual-only DPLL
>>    - does not need to expose NCO pin with state-connected-override cap
>> 
>> 5) dual-mode DPLL (supporting mode switching)
>>    - if it exposes NCO pin with the override cap then it has to support
>>      switching to NCO mode directly from AUTO mode
>>    - if does not expose NCO pin with the override cap then a user MUST
>>      switch the DPLL mode from AUTO to MANUAL to be able to make NCO
>>      pin connected to the DPLL
>
>I still don't see good reasoning for the pin. Even this sentence says
>"DPLL mode" which keeps me thinking whether we have to move it to a
>special DPLL mode. All these items look like overcomplication of a
>simple function of the device itself. DPLL can be either in the closed
>loop when one of the pins provides a signal to align to, or in the open
>loop meaning that software can control adjustments to phase/frequency.
>But it's definitely a property of the device, and it's not a pin in any
>kind...

Vadim, did you see this:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/aiftnkuT9IP31qUm@FV6GYCPJ69/ ?
I very thoroughly described what you are questioning. There is 0 reply
to that email so perhaps you missed it? IDK.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-25  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-31 19:44 [PATCH net-next v5 0/4] dpll: add NCO pin type and zl3073x support Ivan Vecera
2026-05-31 19:44 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] dpll: add DPLL_PIN_TYPE_INT_NCO pin type Ivan Vecera
2026-06-04  1:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-04 15:01     ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-04 15:16       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-04 16:42         ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-08 11:33           ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-06-08 15:30             ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-09 10:24               ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-06-09 15:09                 ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-09 11:06             ` Jiri Pirko
2026-06-08 14:43   ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-06-08 15:48     ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-08 17:03       ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-06-09  8:51         ` Jiri Pirko
2026-06-09 14:00           ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-06-09 14:58             ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-10 13:04               ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-06-10 15:45                 ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-11 12:09                   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-06-15 12:00                     ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-17 11:59                       ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-06-19 17:07                         ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-22 14:47                           ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-06-23 10:37                           ` Jiri Pirko
2026-06-24 15:57                           ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-06-24 16:42                             ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-25  8:45                             ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2026-05-31 19:44 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/4] dpll: zl3073x: use per-operation poll timeouts Ivan Vecera
2026-05-31 19:44 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/4] dpll: zl3073x: add per-DPLL serialization lock Ivan Vecera
2026-06-04  1:40   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-04 14:57     ` Ivan Vecera
2026-06-04  1:51   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-04 15:12     ` Ivan Vecera
2026-05-31 19:44 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] dpll: zl3073x: add NCO virtual input pin Ivan Vecera

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