From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: move internal mempolicy APIs to new internal header
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 13:40:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <al5cqn34Xq19f5HG@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DK05KUIDJVLZ.61UIWOL0K3OT@linux.dev>
On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 04:57:37PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Thu Jul 16, 2026 at 4:48 PM UTC, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 02:30:10PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> >> There are no external users for this surface, reduce the scope.
> >> -struct folio *folio_alloc_mpol_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order,
> >> - struct mempolicy *mpol, pgoff_t ilx, int nid);
> >
> > Hm. So what we're saying is that allocations which respect mempolicy are
> > only for core mm and not for, eg, device drivers to do. Is that really
> > what we want to say? I don't think so, because that's inconsistent
> > with having just widened __filemap_get_folio_mpol to allow guest_memfd
> > to specify a mempolicy.
>
> Yeah I agree, mempolicy definitely seems like a "public concept". All
> I'm saying here is this specific function doesn't have any external
> users so it doesn't need to be an external header.
>
> ... With the ulterior motive that I want to add a new parameter to it
> that actually _is_ mm-internal. Namely, alloc_flags, so I can add
> ALLOC_UNMAPPED to implement AS_NO_DIRECT_MAP, i.e. the next iteration of
> [0]. So basically this is
> about trying to extend the allocator without creating a GFP flag.
>
> So I'm envisaging if an external user arises for it later, we'd slap two
> underscores on the beginning of the internal one, (with the alloc_flags
> arg), and then bring back the public one as a wrapper.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> [0]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260410151746.61150-1-kalyazin@amazon.com/
>
fwiw i've been fiddling with a module side mempolicy interface for a bit
to allow a clean guest_memfd() + mempolicy() interaction [0][1].
I saw this and thought "maybe, maybe not entirely".
there is definitely some oddities in the mempolicy uapi (internal-only
flags that are exposed to the uapi is odd) that some of the interface is
worth internalizing.
(fyi i've converted my private node work on top of the alloc_flags
addition + new zonelists, new rfc is being posted today, your recent
merges were timely).
~Gregory
[0] https://github.com/gourryinverse/linux/commit/b25bb27602fe512733450a97ac31ef4387b7e727
[1] https://github.com/gourryinverse/linux/commit/670f7dd81ef33a9385985a54b8ad6bc070b2d581
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-20 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-16 14:30 [PATCH 0/3] mm: yet more cleanups for page_alloc APIs Brendan Jackman
2026-07-16 14:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: move internal mempolicy APIs to new internal header Brendan Jackman
2026-07-16 15:22 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-16 16:04 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-16 16:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-16 16:57 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-20 17:40 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-07-20 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-07-20 18:29 ` Gregory Price
2026-07-20 18:34 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-20 18:06 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-16 14:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, treewide: replace __folio_alloc_node() with folio_alloc_node() Brendan Jackman
2026-07-16 17:00 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-20 17:42 ` Gregory Price
2026-07-16 14:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: move __folio_alloc() to page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-07-20 17:44 ` Gregory Price
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