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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>, Jes Sorensen <jsorensen@fb.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Managed interrupt affinities [ Was: mlx5 broken affinity ]
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:51:05 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711132145350.2097@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d88f2288-2292-1569-a336-aa4075dd74ea@grimberg.me>

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> > 3) Affinity override in managed mode
> > 
> >   Doable, but there are a couple of things to think about:
> 
> I think that it will be good to shoot for (3). Given that there are
> driver requirements I'd say that driver will expose up front if it can
> handle it, and if not we fallback to (1).
> 
> >    * How is this enabled?
> > 
> >      - Opt-in by driver
> > 	
> >      - Extra sysfs/procfs knob
> > 
> >      We definitely should not enable it per default because that would
> >      surprise users/drivers which work with the current managed devices and
> >      rely on the affinity files to be non writeable in managed mode.
> 
> Do you know if any exist? Would it make sense to have a survey to
> understand if anyone relies on it?
> 
> From what I've seen so far, drivers that were converted simply worked
> with the non-managed facility and didn't have any special code for it.
> Perhaps Christoph can comment as he convert most of them.
> 
> But if there aren't any drivers that absolutely rely on it, maybe its
> not a bad idea to allow it by default?

Sure, I was just cautious and I have to admit that I have no insight into
the driver side details.

> >    * When and how is the driver informed about the change?
> > 
> >       When:
> > 
> >         #1 Before the core tries to move the interrupt so it can veto the
> > 	  move if it cannot allocate new resources or whatever is required
> > 	  to operate after the move.
> 
> What would the core do if a driver veto a move?

Return the error code from write_affinity() as it does with any other error
which fails to set the affinity.

> I'm wandering in what conditions a driver will be unable to allocate
> resources for move to cpu X but able to allocate for move to cpu Y.

Node affine memory allocation is the only thing which comes to my mind, or
some decision not to have a gazillion of queues on a single CPU. 

> This looks like it can work to me, but I'm probably not familiar enough
> to see the full picture here.

On the interrupt core side this is workable, I just need the input from the
driver^Wsubsystem side if this can be implemented sanely.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-13 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 16:19 mlx5 broken affinity Jes Sorensen
2017-11-01 17:21 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-01 18:20   ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-01 22:41     ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-11-01 23:02       ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02  8:28         ` Tariq Toukan
2017-11-02 10:08           ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-02 12:13             ` Andrew Lunn
2017-11-02 14:48             ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02 16:14               ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-02 17:13                 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02 18:10                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-05  8:36                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-07 15:07                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-08  7:27                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-08 12:21                         ` David Laight
2017-11-08 16:13                           ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 10:09                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-09 15:18                               ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 15:08                         ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-11-09 15:40                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-08 16:19                       ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-08 17:33                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 10:50                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-09 14:19                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 15:21                               ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 17:03                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 20:11                                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 21:23                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 21:30                                       ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 21:42                                     ` [RFD] Managed interrupt affinities [ Was: mlx5 broken affinity ] Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-10  5:56                                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-11-10 13:03                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-13 19:20                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-13 20:51                                         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-11-13 21:13                                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-13 21:33                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-13 21:49                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-14 10:15                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 16:01                               ` mlx5 broken affinity Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-09 16:09                                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 17:07                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 20:12                                     ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 21:25                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 15:19                             ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 22:03                           ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02  7:57     ` Sagi Grimberg

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