From: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
Cc: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-tls-handshake@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] net/tls: Bound consecutive no-data records in tls_sw_read_sock()
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 16:23:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <amIj_DG7SuWx8MeY@krikkit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <909e0132-5c0c-4c0c-b8c5-b90b88ad0231@app.fastmail.com>
2026-07-23, 09:24:47 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2026, at 3:11 AM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> > On 7/20/26 4:27 PM, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >> A record that delivers no payload -- an empty TLS 1.3 data record
> >> today, a control record once read_sock_rectype() lands -- leaves
> >> tls_sw_read_sock() in its loop without advancing the caller's read
> >> descriptor. A peer that streams such records keeps the receive loop
> >> running, and the socket lock held, for as long as the records
> >> arrive.
> >>
> >> Cap the number of consecutive no-data records consumed per call. The
> >> count resets on any record that delivers bytes, so a normal stream
> >> is unaffected; a peer supplying only empty records is bounded to
> >> TLS_RX_NODATA_LIMIT iterations before the call returns 0. read_sock
Would a time-based limit be "better" than a packet count? For example
that's what net_rx_action() (net/core/dev.c) does.
> >> consumers treat that as "no progress, re-poll" rather than EOF, so
> >> the connection stays up and makes progress once real data arrives.
> >>
> >> Only tls_sw_read_sock() needs this cap. Its consumers drive the receive
> >> loop from kernel context -- a work item or service thread holding the
> >> socket lock across the whole call with no return to userspace -- so an
> >> unbounded empty-record stream keeps that context and the lock pinned
> >> for as long as the flood lasts. The cap supplies the return boundary
> >> that a system call would otherwise provide. tls_sw_splice_read()
> >> and tls_sw_recvmsg() already have one: they run in the calling task's
> >> context, reschedule while draining the socket backlog (cond_resched()
> >> in __release_sock()),
tls_sw_read_sock() would also do that via tls_rx_rec_wait(), no?
> >> and drop the socket lock when the call returns. A
> >> flood there costs the caller only its own scheduler time, so the cap
> >> would add nothing.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
> >> ---
> >> net/tls/tls_sw.c | 13 +++++++++++++
> >> 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> >>
> > This is technically a fix, so it might be worthwhile sending it
> > on its own.
>
> My impression is that the issue this patch addresses is not
> reachable until the subsequent patches in this series have
> been applied. Thus I positioned it as a pre-requisite patch
> in this series, and not as part of the earlier "fixes" series.
It looks to me like a follow-up for 3be28e2c9cd0 ("net/tls: Consume
empty data records in tls_sw_read_sock()"). Control records only
become a problem after the rest of the series, but TLS 1.3 empty data
records would get there with the current code, no?
> But light taps with a clue bat are welcome, as always.
>
>
> --
> Chuck Lever
--
Sabrina
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-23 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-20 14:27 [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] Deliver TLS control records to kernel read_sock consumers Chuck Lever
2026-07-20 14:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/6] net/tls: Bound consecutive no-data records in tls_sw_read_sock() Chuck Lever
2026-07-23 7:11 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-07-23 13:24 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-23 14:23 ` Sabrina Dubroca [this message]
2026-07-23 14:29 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-20 14:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/6] net: Introduce read_sock_rectype proto_ops for control record delivery Chuck Lever
2026-07-23 7:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-07-20 14:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/6] tls: Implement read_sock_rectype for kTLS software path Chuck Lever
2026-07-23 7:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-07-20 14:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/6] selftests/tls: Add tests for data/control record interleaving Chuck Lever
2026-07-20 14:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/6] SUNRPC: Use read_sock_rectype for svcsock TCP receives Chuck Lever
2026-07-20 14:28 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/6] SUNRPC: Remove sock_recvmsg path from " Chuck Lever
2026-07-23 7:19 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] Deliver TLS control records to kernel read_sock consumers Hannes Reinecke
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