From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
Netfilter Development Mailinglist
<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] add support for modifying secmark via ctnetlink
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:11:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <483457DF.3070702@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200805211246.07481.paul.moore@hp.com>
Paul Moore wrote:
> Sorry, I don't subscribe to netfilter-devel so I missed the original
> discussion; I'm subscribed now.
>
> I agree with James that we need to perform some access check before
> setting the ct->secmark field, however, I don't think it is as simple
> as calling selinux_secmark_relabel_packet_permission(). The problem is
> that the selinux_secmark_relabel_packet_permission() function checks to
> see if the currently running task can relabel packets; in this case we
> don't want to check the currently running task we want to check the
> sender of the netlink message which we can't really do currently. The
> next best thing is to provide access control around the individual
> netlink message types which we can currently do.
Actually in the current kernel netlink message processing is
done synchronously in the context of the sending process
(commit cd40b7d3: [NET]: make netlink user -> kernel interface
synchronious). So this check should be easy to add.
> From what I can tell (I'm no netfilter expert), we need to ensure that
> only privileged process have the ability to send netlink messages with
> type (NFNL_SUBSYS_CTNETLINK | IPCTNL_MSG_CT_NEW) which should be
> possible using the code in security/selinux/nlmsgtab.c. You would need
> to create a NETLINK_NETFILTER nlmsg_perm struct first like the others
> for routing, XFRM, audit, etc.
So far nfnetlink is restricted to CAP_NET_ADMIN and uses
security_netlink_recv() for permission checks. I'll add
a nlmsg_perm struct for nfnetlink, I guess this makes
sense independant of this patch. Will send over for review
once its ready.
>>> The bigger issue perhaps is whether there's really a need to set
>>> secmark via ctnetlink.
>> I think Pablo wants to use it for synchronization with conntrackd,
>> but I'm not sure.
>
> To be honest I'm a little uneasy about this because we don't have a way
> to perform any "good" access check (there is no subject in this case
> since we can't check the security label of the process sending the
> netlink message). Has anyone checked to see if setting the secmark via
> conntrackd works? I really doubt it would since the actual secmakr
> integer value is specific, in the SELinux case, to a particular running
> kernel and not globally recognized by other systems even if they are
> running the same kernel and SELinux policy. There are ways to
> workaround this by passing the string based label between systems but
> even that can have issues if the security policies differ slightly.
In that case it doesn't seem to make sense for synchronization.
That was just a guess of mine though, Pablo?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-21 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-20 22:29 [PATCH 3/4] add support for modifying secmark via ctnetlink Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-05-21 11:15 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-21 11:42 ` James Morris
2008-05-21 12:00 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-21 16:46 ` Paul Moore
2008-05-21 16:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-05-21 17:13 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-22 18:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-05-22 19:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-21 17:41 ` Paul Moore
2008-05-21 17:11 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2008-05-21 17:51 ` Paul Moore
2008-05-21 17:55 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-05-21 19:03 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
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