From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, Eric Garver <e@erig.me>
Subject: Re: [nf-next PATCH v3 11/16] netfilter: nf_tables: chain: Respect NETDEV_REGISTER events
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 18:25:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuMV7bQXHC3J3zU8@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240912160639.GA9554@breakpoint.cc>
On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 06:06:39PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc> wrote:
> > So it is possible that ops are still used somewhere after
> > nf_unregister_net_hook() returns? I don't quite get that code, with all
> > the RCU-bells and ONCE-whistles.
>
> Not ops, but other core could still run the hookfn that
> is being unregistered, i.e.:
>
> cpu 0
> unreg hookfn nf_hook_slow
> runs hookfn
> if nf_hook() fetched the hook blob (struct nf_hook_entries *)
> before unreg path called its rcu_assign_pointer with the updated
> incarnation.
>
> That said, this might be a special case as entire nf_hook_entries blob
> is tied to device that is going down, so packet flow might have stopped
> already.
>
> From a brief glance the device is already disabled at NETDEV_UNREGISTER
> time, no packets are flowing anymore.
This seems like a relief, but doesn't apply to NETDEV_CHANGENAME case.
At least I can't handle it like UNREG && REG - or vice versa, have to
consider the above for UNREG.
> > > Device is the same, so maybe its enough to update the name
> > > in nft_hooks structure?
> >
> > You're putting the cart before the horse here: The user sets
> > hook->ifname and we bind to whatever device matches that.
> >
> > Now with a device being renamed, there are two options:
> >
> > A) Unbind if the name doesn't match hook->ifname anymore and search for
> > another, matching hook. This is what I had (tried to) implement.
> >
> > B) Just leave the interface in place as long as it exists. This is how
> > the old code behaves.
> >
> > For users, I find (A) more intuitive.
>
> Yes, that makes sense to me. But can't you defer the unbind until after
> you've figured out if there is a matching hook or not?
>
> I.e., if no matching new hook, just unreg, else register new/unregister
> old.
I can't bind a device to multiple flowtables of the same family, so I
can't bind first, then unbind.
> Otherwise, we might unreg, then fail to re-register?
Assuming I can't bind to the new flowtable while still bound to the old
one, I can only try to roll back. Which means trying to bind to the old
flowtable again in error case which might still fail. I could return
NOTIFY_BAD then, but it won't help - the transaction is broken.
Cheers, Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-12 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 12:21 [nf-next PATCH v3 00/16] Dynamic hook interface binding Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 01/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Keep deleted flowtable hooks until after RCU Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 13:32 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-12 13:48 ` Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 14:27 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-16 0:00 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-09-16 21:42 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-09-17 21:14 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 02/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Flowtable hook's pf value never varies Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 03/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Store user-defined hook ifname Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:56 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-12 13:26 ` Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 13:38 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 04/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Use stored ifname in netdev hook dumps Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 05/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Compare netdev hooks based on stored name Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 06/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Tolerate chains with no remaining hooks Phil Sutter
2024-10-31 14:01 ` Florian Westphal
2024-10-31 14:19 ` Phil Sutter
2024-10-31 14:37 ` Florian Westphal
2024-10-31 15:16 ` Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 07/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Introduce functions freeing nft_hook objects Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 08/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Introduce nft_hook_find_ops() Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 09/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Introduce nft_register_flowtable_ops() Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 10/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Have a list of nf_hook_ops in nft_hook Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 11/16] netfilter: nf_tables: chain: Respect NETDEV_REGISTER events Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 14:40 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-12 15:05 ` Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 15:12 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-12 15:41 ` Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 16:06 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-12 16:25 ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2024-09-12 20:43 ` Florian Westphal
2024-09-13 11:42 ` Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 12/16] netfilter: nf_tables: flowtable: " Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 13/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Handle NETDEV_CHANGENAME events Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 14/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Support wildcard netdev hook specs Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 15/16] netfilter: nf_tables: Add notications for hook changes Phil Sutter
2024-09-12 12:21 ` [nf-next PATCH v3 16/16] selftests: netfilter: Torture nftables netdev hooks Phil Sutter
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