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From: "Eliezer Croitor" <ngtech1ltd@gmail.com>
To: 'Marcin Szewczyk' <marcin.szewczyk@wodny.org>
Cc: 'Fatih USTA' <fatihusta86@gmail.com>,
	'Netfilter Users Mailing list' <netfilter@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: re-routing multicast pkts after mangle table marking
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 17:57:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002e01d6c8c3$d4fa4e00$7eeeea00$@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X8eKYjtPSINtYYnl@flatwhite>

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I have seen a similar "issue" with outgoing traffic generated locally.
From what I understand the diagram:
*
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Netfilter-packet-flow.sv
g

Doesn't talk about locally generated traffic..
I can try to regenerate this issue to understand it better.

There is a big difference in the linux kernel routing cache since the time
of the test...
If you want to re-produce this issue you can try to use iperf3 instead of
iperf.
iperf3 -c 224.1.1.1 -u  -b 10k

Can you create a test lab using netns ?
You can see a fully automated example lab that I wrote at:
https://github.com/elico/mwan-nft-lb-example/blob/main/run-lab.sh

Or another lab examples can be seen at Vincent blog posts github repository:
https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2018-route-based-vpn-wireguard

I don't understand if there is something to verify at all..

Thanks,
Eliezer

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-----Original Message-----
From: Marcin Szewczyk <marcin.szewczyk@wodny.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:37 PM
To: Eliezer Croitor <ngtech1ltd@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Fatih USTA' <fatihusta86@gmail.com>; 'Netfilter Users Mailing list'
<netfilter@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: re-routing multicast pkts after mangle table marking

On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 02:10:00PM +0200, Eliezer Croitor wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 07:49:43PM +0100, Marcin Szewczyk wrote:
> > Brian Aanderud on 23 Mar 2015 wrote:
> > > What must I do to get the multicast frames routed out a 'different'
> > > interface from the default one after applying a fwmark in iptables the
> > > routing table?  I am able to do this with unicast with a combination
> > > of 'ip rule', 'ip route' to a different table, and iptables to apply a
> > > 'mark'.  But, the marked multicast frames never seem to follow the
> > > other routing table's routes.
> > > [...]
> > 
> > I've stumbled upon the same problem as the one discussed over 5 years
> > ago (with no answer) on this mailing list[1], ie. locally generated
> > multicast and broadcast traffic do not seem to follow policy routing
> > when it is constructed using `iptables --set-mark` and `ip rule fwmark`.

> Just wondering, how can I reproduce this issue on my local network?

The configuration is actually in the message you quoted[1]. You do not
need a network adhering to any specific configuration to reproduce it.
It's a local phenomenon.

> First a broadcast address cannot be "routed" elsewhere then a
> connected network, there is no real "routing" so to speak.

Here routing is limited to the local machine. `ip rule dport` actually
produces positive results so there is a way to force broadcast traffic
to adhere to local routing rules even though the traffic is not going to
be routed on the next layer 3 hop.

In general -- broadcast and multicast traffic adheres to rules in any
table not guarded by the fwmark criterion.

> I do not know how the kernel looks at it but I assume it can only be sent
> towards a connected device such as:
> * ethernet
> * tunnel(these which support broadcast)

I am using my wifi interface but one can reproduce the experiments I
mentioned with a veth device as well:

    ip link add ve1 type veth peer ve2

> Also I am missing some of the thread emails so, What kernel are we talking
> about?
> Let say Debian/Ubuntu/RHEL/CentOS , what version? Etc..

I mentioned Debian Jessie (kernel 4.9) and Debian Buster (kernel 4.19).

> Reproducing is important to understand what the issue is.

As I mentioned -- configuration is in the quoted email[1] and in the
original email[2] (not mine) from 2015.

[1]: https://marc.info/?l=netfilter&m=160690828202259
[2]: https://marc.info/?l=netfilter&m=142714167809246

-- 
Marcin Szewczyk
http://wodny.org


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-02 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-23 20:14 re-routing multicast pkts after mangle table marking Brian Aanderud
2020-12-01 18:49 ` Marcin Szewczyk
     [not found]   ` <CAF4tN+_YNz+0iCQzW7Fd+P5ZkDkU5g95Jv5fdHPNcqhzWtOOng@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <X8bE6GMR6U37cfH/@flatwhite>
     [not found]       ` <CAN_K0LS+U95rxmhCtiE3sX_hdjEQySnV1HBB9sF1qrrVAz0n-w@mail.gmail.com>
2020-12-02 11:23         ` Marcin Szewczyk
2020-12-02 12:10           ` Eliezer Croitor
2020-12-02 12:36             ` Marcin Szewczyk
2020-12-02 15:57               ` Eliezer Croitor [this message]
2020-12-02 16:12                 ` Marcin Szewczyk
2020-12-02 16:30                   ` Fatih USTA
2020-12-02 17:03                     ` Marcin Szewczyk
2020-12-02 17:35                   ` Eliezer Croitor
2020-12-02 18:04                     ` Marcin Szewczyk
2020-12-03  8:39                       ` Fatih USTA

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