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* Antwort: RE: Most stable firewall distro
@ 2002-07-08 10:05 BGrummel
  2002-07-08 10:31 ` Raymond Leach
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: BGrummel @ 2002-07-08 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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                    "Ed Street"                                                                                            
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Hello,

The correct choice to go with would be debian.  You can do a minimal
install from a business card cd and have everything you need.  For those
of you that's interested contact me off list for the details and the
script/iso file (approx 41 megs)



- a good choice
- i am working on a cd-based firewall on debian. booting from cd and
firewall rules from
- write-protect disk. no hdd is needed. if a kernelchange is needed -create
a new cd.
- if somebody hacks it reboot and hes gone!


Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: netfilter-admin@lists.samba.org
[mailto:netfilter-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:34 PM
To: netfilter@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Most stable firewall distro

On Wednesday 03 July 2002 11:23 pm, riffraff wrote:

> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Miguel Laborde" <miguel.laborde@canada.com>
> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:22:38 -0400
>
> >Hello all,
> >  I have a question here for those of you who use iptables heavily
in a
> >production environment. Right now I am about to replace a older
Mandrake
> >(release 7.2) with an updated linux firewall however before I go
ahead and
> >do that, I'm interested in knowing what you people consider the most
> > stable distribution for a linux firewall.
> >  I realize that the underlying OS and iptables software is common
across
> > all distributions however some distributions apply patches which
others
> > don't, and as result might be better suitable as a firewall.
> >
> >
> >  Thanks for your time,
> >                 Miguel
>
> I just used redhat 7.0 (I think, it's been a while), and removed
everything
> that was completely unnecessary, then compiled a whole new kernel (I
had
> to; I'm using the bridge-netfilter patch).  So, it isn't much of a
redhat
> anymore, just uses redhat paths and rpm.

I agree with this approach.   A firewall shouldn't really be any
recognisable
distro, because distros basically differ in all the add-ons they include

around the kernel, nearly all of which you should not have on a
firewall.

And, as suggested above, you really ought to compile your own kernel for
a
firewall, too, so it contains what you want and doesn't contain what you

don't want, therefore you start from ftp://ftp.kernel.org and 'make
config'
(or whichever variation of that you prefer).

The 'distro' I would really like to see people use for firewalls is
Linux
From Scratch, because this is expressly designed to contain only the
tools
you choose for a specific job, and not a whole bunch that someone else
thought might come in handy one day.....

Not the easiest thing to play with though, admittedly.

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org



Antony.







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* Re: Antwort: RE: Most stable firewall distro
  2002-07-08 10:05 Antwort: RE: Most stable firewall distro BGrummel
@ 2002-07-08 10:31 ` Raymond Leach
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Raymond Leach @ 2002-07-08 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: BGrummel; +Cc: netfilter

IMO the best firewall 'solution' is SuSE Firewall on CD. Similar to the
debian solution described below, boots from CD and rules written to
floppy.

 
On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 12:05, BGrummel@zuendel.de wrote:
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>                     "Ed Street"                                                                                            
>                     <blacknet@simplyaquat        An:     "'Antony Stone'" <Antony@Soft-Solutions.co.uk>,                   
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The correct choice to go with would be debian.  You can do a minimal
> install from a business card cd and have everything you need.  For those
> of you that's interested contact me off list for the details and the
> script/iso file (approx 41 megs)
> 
> 
> 
> - a good choice
> - i am working on a cd-based firewall on debian. booting from cd and
> firewall rules from
> - write-protect disk. no hdd is needed. if a kernelchange is needed -create
> a new cd.
> - if somebody hacks it reboot and hes gone!
> 
> 
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: netfilter-admin@lists.samba.org
> [mailto:netfilter-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Antony Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:34 PM
> To: netfilter@lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: Most stable firewall distro
> 
> On Wednesday 03 July 2002 11:23 pm, riffraff wrote:
> 
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "Miguel Laborde" <miguel.laborde@canada.com>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:22:38 -0400
> >
> > >Hello all,
> > >  I have a question here for those of you who use iptables heavily
> in a
> > >production environment. Right now I am about to replace a older
> Mandrake
> > >(release 7.2) with an updated linux firewall however before I go
> ahead and
> > >do that, I'm interested in knowing what you people consider the most
> > > stable distribution for a linux firewall.
> > >  I realize that the underlying OS and iptables software is common
> across
> > > all distributions however some distributions apply patches which
> others
> > > don't, and as result might be better suitable as a firewall.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Thanks for your time,
> > >                 Miguel
> >
> > I just used redhat 7.0 (I think, it's been a while), and removed
> everything
> > that was completely unnecessary, then compiled a whole new kernel (I
> had
> > to; I'm using the bridge-netfilter patch).  So, it isn't much of a
> redhat
> > anymore, just uses redhat paths and rpm.
> 
> I agree with this approach.   A firewall shouldn't really be any
> recognisable
> distro, because distros basically differ in all the add-ons they include
> 
> around the kernel, nearly all of which you should not have on a
> firewall.
> 
> And, as suggested above, you really ought to compile your own kernel for
> a
> firewall, too, so it contains what you want and doesn't contain what you
> 
> don't want, therefore you start from ftp://ftp.kernel.org and 'make
> config'
> (or whichever variation of that you prefer).
> 
> The 'distro' I would really like to see people use for firewalls is
> Linux
> >From Scratch, because this is expressly designed to contain only the
> tools
> you choose for a specific job, and not a whole bunch that someone else
> thought might come in handy one day.....
> 
> Not the easiest thing to play with though, admittedly.
> 
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
> 
> 
> 
> Antony.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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