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From: Udo Rader <udo.rader@bestsolution.at>
To: Netfilter list <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: mysterious dropped echo replies
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:33:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1117539228.25434.82.camel@athene.bestsolution.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <opsrozlyy176nf2y@xonix>


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Hi Sertys,

thanks for your reponse. I doubt that my entire script will help much,
but anyway, I attached it (obfuscated a bit, of course :-)

Yes, we are using traffic shaping (qdisc), but not RP_filter. 

The netmask for .240 is find, actually .240 _is_ the router, the router
sends echo replies to some other hosts in the DMZ for reasons
unknown ...

And no, this is no PPP network but a leased line instead.

Udo Rader

BestSolution.at GmbH
http://www.bestsolution.at

On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 15:57 +0300, Sertys wrote:
> I was totally wrong and realised it a min after sending. In fact why don't  
> you post your whole script. Do you use connection limiting? RP_filter?  
> First - check that the netmask is set correctly on 240. As long as they  
> are on the same segment, they aren't suppose to talk via the router. They  
> just have to ARP discover each other and talk directly. A machine gets to  
> default gw, when the ip is not in the routing table. IS THIS A PPP network?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:50:35 +0300, Sertys <sertys@supportivo.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 31 May 2005 10:42:36 +0200, Udo Rader  
> > <udo.rader@bestsolution.at> wrote:
> >
> > Those are illegal packets:
> >> DROP IN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.100.240 DST=192.168.100.10 LEN=28 TOS=0x00
> >> PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=32153 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=0 CODE=0 ID=45639 SEQ=0
> > There's no type0&code0 combination.
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am stuck with a strange phenonemon where iptables drops packages it
> >> (probably) shouldn't.
> >>
> >> The dropped packages are logged like this:
> >>
> >> DROP IN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.100.240 DST=192.168.100.10 LEN=28 TOS=0x00
> >> PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=32153 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=0 CODE=0 ID=45639 SEQ=0
> >>
> >> So that means that this is about an icmp echo reply, originating from
> >> 192.168.100.240, pending to be sent through its internal interface
> >> (eth1) and destined to 192.168.100.10.
> >>
> >> It is completely mysterious to me where this reply comes from, but
> >> that's not all.
> >>
> >> Each of the two hosts involved can ping each other and in the case of a
> >> ping, iptables does not drop any packages.
> >>
> >> If I shut down 192.168.100.10 (a box within the DMZ), it doesn't take
> >> long until iptables starts to drop packages destined to other boxes in
> >> the DMZ.
> >>
> >> One of the first rules in my iptables setup is this:
> >>
> >> iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.100.0/24 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >> iptables -A OUTPUT -s 192.168.100.0/24 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >> iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.100.0/24 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >>
> >> For the internal interface this is the first rule:
> >>
> >> iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -s 192.168.100.0/24 -d 192.168.100.0/24 -m
> >> state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >> iptables -A FORWARD  -i eth1 -s 192.168.100.0/24 -d 192.168.100.0/24 -m
> >> state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >> iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -s 192.168.100.0/24 -d 192.168.100.0/24 -m
> >> state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >> iptables -A FORWARD -o eth1 -s 192.168.100.0/24 -d 192.168.100.0/24 -m
> >> state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
> >>
> >> The rule that drops the package is the very last one (the 'catch all')
> >> rule.
> >>
> >> This is something new, because I haven't changed the iptaples setup for
> >> quite some time, so if anybody has any guess on what's going on here.
> >>
> >> Udo Rader
> >>
> >> BestSolution.at GmbH
> >> http://www.bestsolution.at
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-31 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-31  8:42 mysterious dropped echo replies Udo Rader
2005-05-31  9:09 ` Sertys
2005-05-31  9:16   ` Sertys
2005-05-31 11:33     ` Udo Rader [this message]
2005-05-31 11:40       ` Sertys
2005-05-31 16:58         ` Udo Rader
2005-05-31 18:38           ` Clemente Aguiar
2005-06-01  2:22         ` Jason Opperisano
2005-06-01  7:50           ` Udo Rader
2005-06-01  8:43           ` Sertys

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