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From: Abraham van der Merwe <abz@frogfoot.net>
To: Ralf Spenneberg <lists@spenneberg.org>
Cc: Netfilter Discussions <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: clearing dont-fragment bit
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:11:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031009181123.GA8403@oasis.frogfoot.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1065719570.5873.31.camel@kermit>

Hi Ralf                                          >@2003.10.09_19:12:51_+0200

> > > > Are there any iptables extensions out there that allow you to clear the DF
> > > > (Dont Fragment) bit in ip headers?
> > > If you clear the DF-Bit and use Linux on either side of the tunnel where
> > > the packets are fragmented you are in deep trouble, because Linux 2.4
> > > (when using PMTU) not only sets the DF-Bit but also clears the IP-ID
> > > which is needed to defragment the packets again. So, when clearing the
> > > DF-Bit you have to ensure unique numbers in the IP-ID field, too.
> > 
> > Surely if I clear the DF-bit in the mangle table then the ipstack should
> > only defragment the packet later on when it made a routing decision and
> > decided over which interface to send the packet(s) and set the IP-ID fields
> > and MF-bit accordingly?
> Usually the IP-ID field is set by the sender and not by the router
> fragmenting the packet. You have to set the IP-ID field and clear the
> DF-Bit at the same time. 

Yes, I know, but as long as all the fragments have unique ids it shouldn't
matter. Also, if the packet is fragmented along the way under normal
circumstances (i.e. DF=0), then the IP-ID field would have to be incremented
by the router fragmenting the packet.

Have a look at this: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html

On IOS you can clear the DF-bit and Cisco actually recommends it for this
particular problem so as long as IP-ID is unique for the fragments (which
should be the case) I don't see any problems doing it on Linux other than
degraded performance.

-- 

Regards
 Abraham

Why is it taking so long for her to bring out all the good in you?

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-09 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-09 13:43 clearing dont-fragment bit Abraham van der Merwe
2003-10-09 14:03 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-10-09 14:08   ` Abraham van der Merwe
2003-10-09 14:43     ` Ramin Dousti
2003-10-09 14:52       ` Abraham van der Merwe
2003-10-09 15:49         ` Ramin Dousti
2003-10-09 16:13           ` Abraham van der Merwe
2003-10-09 19:44             ` Ramin Dousti
2003-10-09 16:23 ` Ralf Spenneberg
2003-10-09 16:50   ` Abraham van der Merwe
2003-10-09 17:12     ` Ralf Spenneberg
2003-10-09 18:11       ` Abraham van der Merwe [this message]
2003-10-10  5:13         ` Ralf Spenneberg
2003-10-10  8:17           ` Abraham van der Merwe

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