From: "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu>
To: netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "raw" table versus "filter" table
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:17:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151118191720.007e3f79@playground> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564CF1D6.9000709@digi-value.fr>
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 22:47:02 +0100
David TAILLANDIER - DIGI VALUE <david.taillandier@digi-value.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> according to the well-known netfilter schematic:
> http://inai.de/images/nf-packet-flow.png
> the "raw" table is processed before the "filter" table.
>
> I tested it with some usual commands without problem:
> iptables --table raw --append PREROUTING --source 1.2.3.4 --jump REJECT
> iptables --table raw --append PREROUTING --in-interface lo --jump ACCEPT
>
> - the packets are handled sooner, without the need to go though
> conntrack+mangle+nat+routing. So less CPU/memory stress (and in turn
> lightly compensated by the fact the iptable_raw module has to be
> loaded ?)
> - only one rule in case the box is also a router (won't be ok for
> every rules, obviously) because there is no need to add the same rule
> for filter/forward
>
> The documentations I found always describe the raw table to be used in
> strict cases. But none give even the smallest justification.
>
> --> Is there any reasons not to use the raw table, apart dogmatic ones ?
Don't have an answer, but I'll have to look into 'raw' for Smoothwall Express. I'll use pert near *anything* that will reduce 'wasteful' CPU load. Combined with ipset, it should be possible to drop all packets to and from 'banned' public IPs using fewer CPU cycles. I already drop INVALID in mangle:PREROUTING. Dropping packets to and from banned addresses in raw:PREROUTING and rejecting packets to banned IPs in raw:OUTPUT would reduce unneeded processing. Of course, this idea depends on whether ipset can be used in the raw table.
One drawback is that NAT doesn't have a chance to re-address these packets. But this might not be too bad, since one doesn't want any traffic to or from banned IPs anyway.
Neal
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2015-11-18 21:47 "raw" table versus "filter" table David TAILLANDIER - DIGI VALUE
2015-11-19 0:17 ` Neal P. Murphy [this message]
2015-11-19 8:10 ` Pascal Hambourg
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