From: Tom van Leeuwen <tom.van.leeuwen@saasplaza.com>
To: Shawn Wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com>,
jack seth <bird_112@hotmail.com>,
"netfilter@vger.kernel.org" <netfilter@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Getting iptables not to reply
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:58:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5249C9C7.4020400@saasplaza.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5249C793.7010201@saasplaza.com>
Just FYI, the RST sending code is normal behaviour (RFC793):
Quote:
If the state is CLOSED (i.e., TCB does not exist) then
all data in the incoming segment is discarded. An incoming
segment containing a RST is discarded. An incoming segment not
containing a RST causes a RST to be sent in response.
On 09/30/2013 08:48 PM, Tom van Leeuwen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems Jack does not want any response...
> So what happens when you hit a machine that has a port closed? Well:
> this happens (telnet 127.0.0.30 443):
> tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
> listening on lo, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
> 20:42:07.706751 IP 127.0.0.1.34056 > 127.0.0.30.443: Flags [S], seq
> 2590507944, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 3717641 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 20:42:07.706778 IP 127.0.0.30.443 > 127.0.0.1.34056: Flags [R.], seq 0,
> ack 2590507945, win 0, length 0
>
> In response to my TCP SYN packet on loopback ip 127.0.0.30:443, which
> does not have a service running, you see the kernel respond with a TCP RST.
>
> Jack: You're talking about a router. Is the router being hit here on a
> closed port, or is some machine behind the router being hit on a closed
> port?
>
> Only option I see, which really sucks and __I DO_NOT_RECOMMEND_THIS__
> because it may also DROP legitimate RST packets when the service
> actually wants to send it:
> iptables -I OUTPUT -p tcp -s 127.0.0.30 --sport 443 --tcp-flags RST RST
> -j DROP
>
> I'm interested in a more clean solution though!
>
> Regards,
> Tom van Leeuwen
>
> On 09/30/2013 07:35 PM, Shawn Wilson wrote:
>> Err should've been FIN, SYN, or RST
>>
>> Shawn Wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do you want to respond with ACK, FIN, or RST?
>>>
>>> jack seth <bird_112@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ok, if you have an 'accept' rule for a service that is not currently
>>>> running, is it possible to have iptables to simply not respond instead
>>>> of reporting the port as 'closed'? During a port scan at grc.com, if
>>>> the router doesn't reply the port will be reported as 'stealth'.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-30 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-30 15:58 Getting iptables not to reply jack seth
2013-09-30 17:32 ` Shawn Wilson
2013-09-30 17:35 ` Shawn Wilson
2013-09-30 18:48 ` Tom van Leeuwen
2013-09-30 18:58 ` Tom van Leeuwen [this message]
2013-09-30 23:56 ` Shawn Wilson
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