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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Yang Shi
	<yang.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>,
	Zi Yan <ziy-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	Alistair Popple <apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kselftest-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov"
	<kirill.shutemov-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: support THP migration to device private memory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:01:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201120200133.GH917484@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbf1f0df-85f3-5887-050e-beb2aad750f2-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 03:38:42PM -0800, Ralph Campbell wrote:

> MEMORY_DEVICE_GENERIC:
> Struct pages are created in dev_dax_probe() and represent non-volatile memory.
> The device can be mmap()'ed which calls dax_mmap() which sets
> vma->vm_flags | VM_HUGEPAGE.
> A CPU page fault will result in a PTE, PMD, or PUD sized page
> (but not compound) to be inserted by vmf_insert_mixed() which will call either
> insert_pfn() or insert_page().
> Neither insert_pfn() nor insert_page() increments the page reference
> count.

But why was this done? It seems very strange to put a pfn with a
struct page into a VMA and then deliberately not take the refcount for
the duration of that pfn being in the VMA?

What prevents memunmap_pages() from progressing while VMAs still point
at the memory?

> I think just leaving the page reference count at one is better than trying
> to use the mmu_interval_notifier or changing vmf_insert_mixed() and
> invalidations of pfn_t_devmap(pfn) to adjust the page reference count.

Why so? The entire point of getting struct page's for this stuff was
to be able to follow the struct page flow. I never did learn a reason
why there is devmap stuff all over the place in the page table code...

> MEMORY_DEVICE_FS_DAX:
> Struct pages are created in pmem_attach_disk() and virtio_fs_setup_dax() with
> an initial reference count of one.
> The problem I see is that there are 3 states that are important:
> a) memory is free and not allocated to any file (page_ref_count() == 0).
> b) memory is allocated to a file and in the page cache (page_ref_count() == 1).
> c) some gup() or I/O has a reference even after calling unmap_mapping_pages()
>    (page_ref_count() > 1). ext4_break_layouts() basically waits until the
>    page_ref_count() == 1 with put_page() calling wake_up_var(&page->_refcount)
>    to wake up ext4_break_layouts().
> The current code doesn't seem to distinguish (a) and (b). If we want to use
> the 0->1 reference count to signal (c), then the page cache would have hold
> entries with a page_ref_count() == 0 which doesn't match the general page cache
> assumptions.

This explanation feels confusing. If *anything* has a reference on the
page it cannot be recycled. I would have guess the logic is to remove
it from the page cache then wait for a 0 reference??

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-20 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-06  0:51 [PATCH v3 0/6] mm/hmm/nouveau: add THP migration to migrate_vma_* Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm/thp: add prep_transhuge_device_private_page() Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  7:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06 20:56     ` Ralph Campbell
     [not found]   ` <20201106005147.20113-2-rcampbell-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-06 12:14     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-06 20:34       ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: support THP migration to device private memory Ralph Campbell
     [not found]   ` <20201106005147.20113-4-rcampbell-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-06  8:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06 21:26       ` Ralph Campbell
2020-11-09  9:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09 21:34           ` Ralph Campbell
     [not found]           ` <20201109091415.GC28918-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-11 23:38             ` Ralph Campbell
     [not found]               ` <bbf1f0df-85f3-5887-050e-beb2aad750f2-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-20 20:01                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20201120200133.GH917484-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-12-02 10:08                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-05  8:22                       ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-12-02 10:14               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-02 18:01                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06  0:51 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm/thp: add THP allocation helper Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  8:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <20201106005147.20113-1-rcampbell-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-06  0:51   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm/migrate: move migrate_vma_collect_skip() Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  7:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06  7:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06  0:51   ` [PATCH v3 5/6] mm/hmm/test: add self tests for THP migration Ralph Campbell
2020-11-06  0:51   ` [PATCH v3 6/6] nouveau: support THP migration to private memory Ralph Campbell

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