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From: Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
To: ofono@ofono.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] radio settings: add FastDormancy property
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:19:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CC9947F.8050205@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C358A26273CF2948B8BCDBA661A581782A7DCA1810@NOK-EUMSG-03.mgdnok.nokia.com>

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Hi Mika,

On 10/28/2010 08:32 AM, Mika.Liljeberg(a)nokia.com wrote:
> Hi Denis,
> 
>> Patch has been applied, thanks.  I did make a couple of minor tweaks
>> afterwards.
> 
> Thanks. A question regarding this particular tweak:
> 
> diff --git a/src/radio-settings.c b/src/radio-settings.c
> index cb0a598..eb2a42d 100644
> --- a/src/radio-settings.c
> +++ b/src/radio-settings.c
> @@ -126,8 +126,7 @@ static void radio_set_fast_dormancy(struct ofono_radio_settings *rs,
>         const char *path = __ofono_atom_get_path(rs->atom);
>         dbus_bool_t value = enable;
>  
> -       if ((rs->flags & RADIO_SETTINGS_FLAG_CACHED) &&
> -               rs->fast_dormancy == enable)
> +       if (rs->fast_dormancy == enable)
>                 return;
>  
>         ofono_dbus_signal_property_changed(conn, path,
> 
> The fundamental problem here is that there is only a single CACHED flag for multiple properties, which may be modified individually. So, either you get extra signals or you get too few. I checked the CACHED flag here because otherwise the following might happen:

Yes, I know.  But this problem is present in every single atom.  oFono
does not guarantee that every attribute is signaled when the atom is
initialized.

> 
> 1. client tries to GetProperties() and gets the "Operation already in progress" error.
> 2. client waits for PropertyChanged signal to get the FastDormancy value
> 3. signal never comes because the default value happens to match the one returned by the driver and the signal is suppressed
>

In general I think that for interfaces where this can happen, the
likelihood is very low that it actually will in the real world.

Do note that I have had the same argument with myself off and on for the
past two years.  So far this was never raised as an issue.  If this ever
becomes a problem, we can fix it properly using an appropriate idiom.

> I do agree that sending extra signals is bad but I think that not sending a signal is even worse. If the client cannot rely on getting a PropertyChanged signal after a busy error, all it can do is resort to polling. I.e., every client has to implement a polling pattern for GetProperties:
> 
> while (GetProperties() == BUSY)
> 	sleep(FOR_A_WHILE);
> 
> Having a separate CACHED flag for each value would solve this optimally. Failing that, I don't think a few extra signals is so bad. Forcing clients to poll is just ugly.
> 

Honestly, if you expect multiple applications to battle over the
FastDormancy property, then it should be modeled differently.  Perhaps
with application registration and lifetime tracking over D-Bus, similar
to how agents work.

> Am I missing something?
> 
> 	MikaL

Regards,
-Denis

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-28 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-26 15:31 [PATCH 0/6] Fast dormancy support Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 1/6] radio settings: fix mode initializion Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-28  3:27   ` Denis Kenzior
2010-10-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 2/6] stemodem: add default case Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-26 15:35   ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-10-26 15:43     ` Mika.Liljeberg
2010-10-26 16:24       ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-10-27  7:06         ` Mika.Liljeberg
2010-10-27  9:12           ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-10-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 3/6] radio settings: add FastDormancy property Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-28  3:27   ` Denis Kenzior
2010-10-28 13:32     ` Mika.Liljeberg
2010-10-28 15:19       ` Denis Kenzior [this message]
2010-10-29  8:52         ` Mika.Liljeberg
2010-10-29 14:34           ` Denis Kenzior
2010-11-01  9:18             ` Mika.Liljeberg
2010-10-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 4/6] test: add script to control fast dormancy Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-28  3:27   ` Denis Kenzior
2010-10-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 5/6] isimodem: add support for FastDormancy property Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-28  3:28   ` Denis Kenzior
2010-10-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 6/6] TODO: mark fast dormancy as done Mika Liljeberg
2010-10-28  3:28   ` Denis Kenzior

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