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From: Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org>
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: ARM tunings was Re: [PATCH 3/7] conf/machine/include: Cleanup MIPS tunings to match README
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:30:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1334007051.3382.19.camel@x121e.pbcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F8352CD.7070500@windriver.com>

On Mon, 2012-04-09 at 16:21 -0500, Mark Hatle wrote:
> I do, and thus the hell that is ARM.  I could not currently generate a single 
> package feed that work would on a variety of devices (like a traditional 
> workstaton/server Linux OS would.) 

Well, actually, you could in fact do exactly that.  What you couldn't
necessarily do with the tunings as they exist right now is generate a
package feed which is optimised for (as opposed to "works on") all those
devices.  But it isn't clear to me that you could do that with a
"traditional workstaton/server" kind of distribution either.  In the x86
world, for example, the majority of the big distros do not bother to
ship individually-tuned binaries for different processor types,
certainly not for the entire distribution.

>Add in to that one of the tunings -- not indicated by the package arch
>of thumb enabled or not

There are multiple reasons why this isn't indicated by the PACKAGE_ARCH.
Firstly, it's irrelevant: on v5T or newer, the question of whether a
given package is using Thumb-state or not has no ABI impact and there is
no reason for anyone to care at a compatibility level.  Second, it may
be unpredictable: the compiler is at liberty (although current versions
of gcc don't exploit this latitude) to switch arbitrarily between
ARM-state and Thumb-state as it sees fit to get the best performance.
And thirdly, it's just another piece of distro policy in the same way as
compiling for -O2 vs -Os (which we also don't encode into PACKAGE_ARCH)
is.

p.





  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-09 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-03 19:47 [PATCH 0/7] Cleanup and document tuning files Mark Hatle
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] conf/machine/include/README: Add readme to explain cpu tunings Mark Hatle
2012-04-04  0:40   ` Chris Larson
2012-04-04  1:58   ` Otavio Salvador
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 2/7] conf/machine/include: Cleanup IA tunings to match README Mark Hatle
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 3/7] conf/machine/include: Cleanup MIPS " Mark Hatle
2012-04-03 19:51   ` Phil Blundell
2012-04-03 19:57     ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-04 22:10   ` Andreas Oberritter
2012-04-05  4:17     ` Khem Raj
2012-04-06 17:33       ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-06 21:30         ` Khem Raj
2012-04-07  0:10           ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-08 21:34             ` Andreas Oberritter
2012-04-09 15:17               ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-09 15:56                 ` Koen Kooi
2012-04-09 16:03                   ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-09 20:06                 ` Andreas Oberritter
2012-04-09 20:25                   ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-09 20:51                     ` Andreas Oberritter
2012-04-09 21:00                     ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-09 21:03                     ` Phil Blundell
2012-04-09 21:21                       ` ARM tunings was " Mark Hatle
2012-04-09 21:30                         ` Phil Blundell [this message]
2012-04-09 21:44                           ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-10  9:23                             ` Phil Blundell
2012-04-10 17:39                               ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-10 19:33                                 ` Phil Blundell
2012-04-09 22:19                     ` Khem Raj
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 4/7] conf/machine/include: Cleanup PowerPC " Mark Hatle
2012-04-04 18:02   ` Matthew McClintock
2012-04-04 19:57     ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-04 18:03   ` Matthew McClintock
2012-04-04 19:59     ` Mark Hatle
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 5/7] conf/machine/include: Cleanup ARM " Mark Hatle
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] conf/machine/include: Update SH " Mark Hatle
2012-04-03 19:47 ` [PATCH 7/7] binutils: Inform binutils that armv5e really is valid! Mark Hatle
2012-04-07  8:03   ` Khem Raj
2012-04-04 16:59 ` [PATCH 0/7 v2] Cleanup and document tuning files Saul Wold

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