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From: Ferry Toth <fntoth@gmail.com>
To: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>,
	openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Cc: Xavier Berger <xavier.berger@bio-logic.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] gpg-sign: Add parameters to gpg signature function
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:36:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c616e34-d31b-dcab-657a-268698d34150@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6dad87edfe80040678963ca18842a3ddf337e35c.camel@linuxfoundation.org>

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Hi

Op 24-03-2022 om 13:03 schreef Richard Purdie:
> On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 12:23 +0100, Ferry Toth wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2022-03-23 at 19:34 +0100, Ferry Toth wrote:
>>>> I forgot to add a cover letter, sorry for that. The 2 patches  together
>>>> implement DEB repository signing.
>>>>
>>>> This is necessary since Gatesgarth |apt| (1.8.2) has become more strict
>>>> and doesn’t allow unsigned repositories by default.
>>>>
>>>> It is possible to override this behavior |but||| is more work then to
>>>> enable signed DEB repositories. These patches makes DEB a first class
>>>> citizen as IPK and RPM.
>>>>
>>>> Patches have been in use in meta-intel-edison since Gatesgarth, see
>>>> https://edison-fw.github.io/meta-intel-edison/5.0-Creating-a-deb-
>>>> repository.html\
>>> What puzzles me is that we can build root filesystems using apt, we test
>>> this on
>>> the autobuilder. Saying repositories are broken since gatesgarth therefore
>>> seems
>>> confusing in the commit message.
>> Good question. When I (meta-intel-edison) build the rootfs using DEB's it just
>> works.
>> Could it be that during rootfs build dpkg is used and not apt? I think I have
>> seen that in the logs.
> It definitely uses apt.
>
>> Of course apt uses dpkg to install a package as well, but it refuses to
>> download the package from a repo when it's not signed.
> Perhaps the difference is the packages are local and not remote?
>
>>> I guess we must configure apt to override that during the rootfs process and
>>> likely an end user with a remote feed could do the same, possibly with a
>>> warning
>>> from apt?
>>   I believe there is no issue during rootfs generation.
>>   
>>> I'm also worried that there isn't any automated testing of this change. The
>>> reason I worry is that since we don't show any testing failures right now,
>>> there
>>> is clearly a hole in our automated testing coverage and there is no
>>> guarantee
>>> that this feature will keep working. It is these smaller corner case issues
>>> which tend to make or break the project's experience as if a feature is
>>> present,
>>> people expect it to work. Can we improve the testing situation?
>> It doesn't seem to be a particularly volatile area in the code. I refreshed
>> Xavier's patches for Gatesgarth, and am actively using unchanged patch on
>> Honisiter.
>> I don't know how the automated testing is working but I guess for RPM a repo
>> is generated using a small layer? And then tested on a qemu running the
>> rootfs?
>> Should be almost same for deb/apt, maybe could be modified from rpm test?
> I think the rpm test is test_testimage_dnf in
> meta/lib/oeqa/selftest/cases/runtime_test.py. You'd run it with:
>
> oe-selftest -r runtime_test.TestImage.test_testimage_dnf
I'll have a look.
>> Point is: currently deb is documented as a feasible package format to generate
>> a repo. But it really is not without these signing patches. So we could either
>> deprecate deb's (no, no please don't) or fix it.
>> These patches fix it. With or without automated testing, it is already better
>> then the current situation.
> I'm not sure it is. The project gains yet another set of config options which we
> don't have tests for and the maintainer stress levels in trying to keep it all
> working just get worse.
>
> We have a huge number of ways people can configure the builds. The only way the
> project manages to keep all of this working is through automated testing, there
> is simply no other way to do it. I appreciate adding tests is a pain and nobody
> likes doing it. It does however let the project stay functional for everyone's
> diverse use cases.
>
> There are all kinds of patches I could take because the improve some corner
> case. In most cases we don't know what else they might break or whether that
> code continues to be used or stays working. I therefore do really want tests for
> new configurations.
It's not an improvement but a fix for an existing config. Even if it 
would break in the future it can't be worse then it is now.
> Who should write those tests? If you don't/can't as some actively using the
> feature, it means someone else has to, but who?
I do understand.
> I've not decided what to do with the patches to be honest but the merge and not
> bother with tests argument doesn't sit well with me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-24 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-22 21:19 [PATCH v1 1/2] gpg-sign: Add parameters to gpg signature function Ferry Toth
2022-03-22 21:19 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] package_manager: sign DEB package feeds Ferry Toth
2022-03-23 18:34 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] gpg-sign: Add parameters to gpg signature function Ferry Toth
2022-03-24  8:12   ` Richard Purdie
2022-03-24 11:23     ` Ferry Toth
2022-03-24 12:03       ` Richard Purdie
2022-03-24 15:36         ` Ferry Toth [this message]
2022-03-24 22:11           ` Ferry Toth
2022-03-24 22:20             ` Richard Purdie
2022-03-28 14:04               ` Ferry Toth
2022-03-25 11:28             ` Ferry Toth
2022-03-25 11:51               ` [OE-core] " Alexander Kanavin
2022-03-25 21:57                 ` Ferry Toth

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