From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com>
Cc: Ola x Nilsson <ola.x.nilsson@axis.com>,
Niko Mauno <niko.mauno@vaisala.com>,
openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [OE-core] [RFC PATCH 2/3] kbd: Disable 64 bit time with 32 bit glibc
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 16:42:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2vKSQoHb+7DMHcz@mail.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANNYZj8wUXkx2c9zvVEds+FvrA0hGvHyDACsjLRy4zzr28ne-g@mail.gmail.com>
On 08/11/2022 19:38:06+0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> Thanks. But: face, meet palm.
>
> "If _TIME_BITS is undefined, the bit size of time_t is architecture
> dependent. Currently it defaults to 64 bits on most architectures.
> Although it defaults to 32 bits on some traditional architectures
> (i686, ARM), this is planned to change and applications should not
> rely on this. "
>
> No one needs to know or care about this, they should just set it to 64
> for all targets, break all the badly written userspace and move on.
>
Note that this may build but not run properly as there is no way to know
whether userspace stores a time_t in an int at some point.
> Anyway, rather than add exceptions all over the core layers, I'd
> suggest that you set it to 64, 'bitbake world' with all of meta-oe,
> then send fixes upstream for everything that breaks. Rinse, repeat.
> Then when the 'planned to change' actually happens we should be ready
> for it.
>
So we may not be ready unless the rinse/repeat also includes runtime
testing.
On Monday, I was suggesting to RP that we should probably have a poky
distro with _TIME_BITS set to 64 and run that on the autobuilders.
I don't think we can just add the flag and be done and this is a flag
day and may break existing users.
I'm usually getting customers to define their own distro and stop
depending on poky but it is not the case of everyone.
--
Alexandre Belloni, co-owner and COO, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-09 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-08 0:08 [RFC PATCH 1/3] Try to ensure 64 bit time on 32 bit glibcful hosts Niko Mauno
2022-11-08 0:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] kbd: Disable 64 bit time with 32 bit glibc Niko Mauno
2022-11-08 9:14 ` [OE-core] " Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-08 11:48 ` Niko Mauno
2022-11-08 11:50 ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-08 12:04 ` Niko Mauno
2022-11-08 12:18 ` Alexander Kanavin
[not found] ` <17259B3874804FB3.24550@lists.openembedded.org>
2022-11-08 12:57 ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-08 14:56 ` Ola x Nilsson
2022-11-08 15:00 ` Ola x Nilsson
[not found] ` <1725A47F2FC9966F.2170@lists.openembedded.org>
2022-11-08 17:56 ` Ola x Nilsson
2022-11-08 18:38 ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-09 7:44 ` Ola x Nilsson
2022-11-09 15:42 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2022-11-08 16:40 ` Khem Raj
2022-11-08 16:45 ` Alexander Kanavin
2022-11-08 0:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] pulseaudio: " Niko Mauno
2022-11-08 10:17 ` [OE-core] " Peter Kjellerstedt
2022-11-08 3:30 ` [OE-core] [RFC PATCH 1/3] Try to ensure 64 bit time on 32 bit glibcful hosts Khem Raj
2022-11-08 10:51 ` Ola x Nilsson
2022-11-08 16:38 ` Khem Raj
2022-11-09 6:33 ` Niko Mauno
2022-11-09 15:47 ` Alexandre Belloni
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