From: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
To: Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org>
Cc: openembedded-architecture
<openembedded-architecture@lists.openembedded.org>,
OE-core <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [Openembedded-architecture] Enabling uninative by default in oe-core?
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:22:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac552119-5afe-85a8-08a1-8a8ac3e0cf1d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161117185001.GE26131@denix.org>
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On 11/17/16 10:50 AM, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:06:46AM -0800, Khem Raj wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/16 9:31 AM, Burton, Ross wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Background: uninative is a class that downloads a precompiled host glibc for
>>> use in the sysroot, thus isolating the native sysroot from the host
>>> environment. This means greater sstate reuse, as instead of native builds
>>> being dependent on the host system they're able to be shared between all
>>> hosts. There is a reference tarball hosted on www.yoctoproject.org
>>> <http://www.yoctoproject.org>, and the URL can be overridden by distros if you
>>> would prefer to build your own.
>>>
>>> We enable this in Poky so that we get greater reuse on the autobuilders, and
>>> due to some issues with the C++ ABI the eSDK generation in master now requires
>>> uninative to be enabled. The question is: do we now enable uninative by
>>> default in oe-core's nodistro (pointing at the yoctoproject tarball), or do we
>>> keep it disabled by default and require the user to enable uninative if they
>>> wish to build an eSDK?
>>>
>>> Personally I'm torn: I don't like eSDK not working out of the box, but I don't
>>> really like oe-core nodistro depending on uninative. Though enabling
>>> uninative globally does mean everything works out of the box, so following the
>>> principle of Least Surprise that's what we should do.
>>
>> If we are supporing e-SDK in OE-Core then we should enable uninative too
>> on the same lines.
>>
>> It does improve the user experience so I am in favor of adding it
>> unconditionally. May be tarball can be hosted on oe mirrors as well for
>> redundancy
>
> I still believe this new feature is moving to become mandatory a bit too
> soon...
perhaps keeping it optional for 1 release would be acceptable ? it also means
that we may not be able to develop core features using this and it would also
mean more testing matrix, which I believe is fine. Since we know non uninative
version wont get as much coverage.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-17 23:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-17 17:31 Enabling uninative by default in oe-core? Burton, Ross
2016-11-17 18:06 ` Khem Raj
2016-11-17 18:50 ` [Openembedded-architecture] " Denys Dmytriyenko
2016-11-17 23:22 ` Khem Raj [this message]
2016-11-17 18:56 ` Nicolas Dechesne
2016-11-17 23:19 ` Khem Raj
2016-11-17 21:47 ` [Openembedded-architecture] " Mark Hatle
2016-11-18 7:15 ` Koen Kooi
2016-11-18 8:03 ` [Openembedded-architecture] " Richard Purdie
2016-11-18 16:28 ` akuster808
2016-11-18 18:06 ` [Openembedded-architecture] " Richard Purdie
2016-11-18 20:50 ` Koen Kooi
2016-11-18 21:17 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
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