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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: openrisc@lists.librecores.org
Subject: [OpenRISC] [PATCH 00/50] Add log level to show_stack()
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 23:25:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191106232512.GU25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191106203440.GH3079@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 09:34:40PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> I suppose I'm surprised there are backtraces that are not important.
> Either badness happened and it needs printing, or the user asked for it
> and it needs printing.

Or utterly meaningless.

> Perhaps we should be removing backtraces if they're not important
> instead of allowing to print them as lower loglevels?

Definitely!  WARN_ON() is well overused - and as is typical, used
without much thought.  Bound to happen after Linus got shirty about
BUG_ON() being over used.  Everyone just grabbed the next nearest thing
to assert().

As a kind of example, I've recently come across one WARN_ON() in a
driver subsystem (that shall remain nameless at the moment) which very
likely has multiple different devices on a platform.  The WARN_ON()
triggers as a result of a problem with the hardware, but because it's a
WARN_ON(), you've no idea which device has a problem.  The backtrace is
mostly meaningless.  So you know that a problem has occurred, but the
kernel prints *useless* backtrace to let you know, and totally omits
the *useful* information.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-06 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-06  3:04 [OpenRISC] [PATCH 00/50] Add log level to show_stack() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-06  3:05 ` [OpenRISC] [PATCH 24/50] openrisc: Add show_stack_loglvl() Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-06  8:35 ` [OpenRISC] [PATCH 00/50] Add log level to show_stack() Petr Mladek
2019-11-06 16:12   ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-08 10:37   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-08 13:04     ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-11  1:23       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-11  9:12         ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-12  4:44           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-12  4:57             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-12  8:35               ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-12 10:12                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-13  1:23                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-13  2:25                     ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-13  6:33                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-13  8:47                         ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-13 16:24                           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-13 16:40                         ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-15  0:50                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-13 15:32             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-11 19:47         ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  2:17           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-12  2:40             ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-12  4:25               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-13  2:41                 ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-13  2:51                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-13 15:39             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-15  3:36               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-06  9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06 16:27   ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-06 20:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06 23:25       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2019-11-13 15:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-08 16:28       ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-08 17:30         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-11-08 21:08           ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-11-13 15:41       ` Steven Rostedt

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