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From: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>,
	sedat.dilek@gmail.com, Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: linux-next: Tree for December 8 (drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig:422:error: recursive dependency detected!)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:51:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101208135105.a8482d46.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101208174603.GA7107@core.coreip.homeip.net>

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:46:04 -0800 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 09:53:09AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:12 +0100, Corentin Chary wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't really see how it's a recursive dependency, but maybe it's
> > > time to clean this KConfig.
> > > What is our current policy about that ?
> > > 
> > > I think we should *depends* on important subsystem (ACPI, INPUT, ...)
> > > and select obscure things so
> > > that the driver does not get lost if you don't enable the leds.
> > 
> > A better policy is: "NEVER USE SELECT".
> > 
> 
> No, this is BS. User selecting, for example, a button driver should not
> care that it is working in polling mode only and needs polled device
> library to work. As it was said before, drivers need to depend on major
> subsystems and select minors and library modules.

I dislike select, but reality is that modules do need to select/enable
library code and minor features sometimes.

OTOH, where drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig:ACPI_CMPC does "select INPUT"
to enable an entire subsystem is wrong and bad IMO.


> The fact that our Kconfig can't really provide us with the functionality
> we desire (be it because the logic is fuzzy and hard to formalize or
> some other reason) shoud not force "NO SELECT" policy, we just need to
> be careful when using it.


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~Randy
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-08 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-08  8:17 linux-next: Tree for December 8 (drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig:422:error: recursive dependency detected!) Sedat Dilek
2010-12-08  9:12 ` Corentin Chary
2010-12-08  9:18   ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-08  9:20     ` Berg, Johannes
2010-12-08  9:28   ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-08  9:51     ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-08  9:53   ` David Woodhouse
2010-12-08 10:12     ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-08 17:46     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-12-08 21:51       ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2010-12-08 22:12         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-12-08 22:37           ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2010-12-08 23:08         ` David Woodhouse
2010-12-08 23:31           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-12-08 23:35             ` David Woodhouse
2010-12-08 23:49               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-12-08 23:58                 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-12-08 23:34           ` Randy Dunlap
2010-12-08 23:41             ` David Woodhouse
2010-12-08 23:52             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-12-08 17:31   ` Randy Dunlap

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