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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy@infradead.org>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <ibm-acpi@hmh.eng.br>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 7/7] platform/x86/dell-*: Call led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed on kbd brightness change
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:11:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <707e2a4e-ab96-a8a8-e2ba-07c3521108c3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <595f88da-a0ee-005e-b22d-ee04cfe20628@redhat.com>

HI,

On 06-03-17 14:39, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03-03-17 13:00, Pali Rohár wrote:
>> On Wednesday 01 March 2017 14:58:45 Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> In my idea I do not add any additional information to event. Which means
>>>> all received events are same in current driver state and I can swap
>>>> them. So I can decide to drop one event when driver is changing
>>>> backlight level. And because I can swap received events it does not
>>>> matter if I drop "correct" one (that which was really generated by my
>>>> backlight level change) or any other before or after (as they are same).
>>>> The only important is that kernel use correct number of firmware events.
>>>>
>>>> Idea for time interval of 2-3 seconds is that if event is delivered
>>>> later as after 3 seconds it is probably useless as driver application
>>>> code can be already out-of-sync. But this time interval is just another
>>>> idea and we do not need to use it.
>>>
>>> I really don't like the 2-3 seconds stuff, but I'm fine with going
>>> with your idea of just swallowing one event after a sysfs-write
>>> without the timeout stuff.
>>
>> Ok. I'm fine with just dropping exactly one event after setting new
>> value via sysfs. It is OK for you?
>
> Yes that will work for me. I will prepare a new version. Note I probably
> will not have time for this till the end of this week.
>
> One thing I was wondering, is what will happen if we write the
> same value to the sysfs brightness file twice, do we get events
> for both writes?  One way to avoid this problem would be to compare
> the written value to the last known value and discard the write
> (avoiding an expensive SMM call) if they are equal.
>
> Discarding double writes does introduce a race between hotkey changes
> vs sysfs writes, if a hotkey change has been made but the event has
> not yet been handled then a sysfs write may be seen as being double
> and get discarded even though it is not double. OTOH if the hotkey
> press wins the race then the result would have been the write being
> discarded anyways, so I don't think this is a real problem.
>
> You're input on this would be appreciated. If writing the same value
> twice does not generate events then we must filter out the double
> writes. If it does drop events we can choose, the simplest would be
> to not filter in that case, avoiding any races (and userspace normally
> should not write the same value twice, but we cannot assume that).

Ok, I've spend some time on this today. As I was afraid no new wmi
events are generated when writing the same value to sysfs twice,
making the ignore one event after write approach tricky.

But luckily I've found a better fix, the kbd led related wmi events
with a type of 0x0010 are only send when using the hotkeys.

So if we ignore the events with a type of 0x0011, by dropping the
part of the patch which was mapping those to KEY_KBDILLUMTOGGLE
instead of to KEY_RESERVED, we only end up calling
dell_laptop_call_notifier from dell-wmi.c on hotkey presses and
we can drop the current vs new brightness comparison which
you disliked from dell-laptop.c.

So we can fix this by making the patch smaller :)

I will prepare a v9 with these changes and send that out later
today.

Regards,

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-16 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-09 15:44 [PATCH v8 0/7] platform/x86: Notify userspace about hotkeys changing kbd-backlight brightness Hans de Goede
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 1/7] platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi: Stop setting led_classdev brightness directly Hans de Goede
2017-02-09 18:09   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-03-01 11:27   ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-01 11:57     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-01 12:00       ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-01 12:04         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-01 14:24     ` Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 2/7] platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi: Use brightness_set_blocking callback for LEDs Hans de Goede
2017-02-09 18:00   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 3/7] platform/x86/thinkpad: Call led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2017-02-09 18:08   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-02-13 22:52     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-14  9:25       ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-14  9:33         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-17  3:45           ` Darren Hart
2017-02-14  9:36         ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 4/7] platform/x86/dell-*: Add a generic dell-laptop notifier chain Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:18   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 5/7] platform/x86/dell-laptop: Refactor kbd_led_triggers_store() Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:02   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 6/7] platform/x86/dell-laptop: Protect kbd_state against races Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:06   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 14:18     ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:25       ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 14:42         ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:53           ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-09 15:44 ` [PATCH v8 7/7] platform/x86/dell-*: Call led_classdev_notify_brightness_hw_changed on kbd brightness change Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:11   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 14:40     ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 14:50       ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 14:56         ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 15:13           ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 16:14             ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-21 17:08               ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-22  8:36                 ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-22  8:49                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-22 10:24                     ` Hans de Goede
2017-02-22 12:01                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-22 12:20                         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-01 11:15                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-01 12:02                             ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-01 12:55                               ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-01 13:58                                 ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-03 12:00                                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-06 13:39                                     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-16 10:11                                       ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2017-02-21 20:47             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2017-02-09 20:21 ` [PATCH v8 0/7] platform/x86: Notify userspace about hotkeys changing kbd-backlight brightness Jacek Anaszewski
2017-02-11 20:08 ` Pavel Machek
2017-03-01 23:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-02 14:12   ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-02 14:22     ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-02 14:30       ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-02 14:34         ` Pali Rohár
2017-03-02 15:27     ` Andy Shevchenko

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