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From: "Dennis Nezic" <dennisn@dennisn.mooo.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] platform/x86: Add ACPI quickstart button driver
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 09:58:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbuxlZq6sGEAlI4n@panther> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83692b7c-3797-4a78-9f5e-f935c43cceac@redhat.com>

On 01 Feb 15:44, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
> 
> On 2/1/24 15:09, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > On 31 Jan 18:36, Armin Wolf wrote:
> >> Am 31.01.24 um 18:17 schrieb Dennis Nezic:
> >>
> >>> On 31 Jan 18:07, Armin Wolf wrote:
> >>>> The issue is that you machine does not support runtime button events on the quickstart button,
> >>>> only wake events.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you check if you can now use the unresponsive button to wake the system?
> >>> Nope, only the main power button can wake it from a sleep state, those
> >>> quickstart buttons do nothing.
> >>
> >> Can you check if this is still the case when you configure the PNP0C32 ACPI device to be able
> >> to generate wakeup events (from S5, S4 and S3)?
> >> Maybe you should unload the quickstart driver for this test.
> >>
> >> If the button still does nothing, then it could be that the quickstart device is not handling
> >> this button. Then we need some new ideas.
> > 
> > Yea I don't think quickstart/hp-wmi is handling it. As I said, the
> > behavior is exactly the same as if I didn't have it compiled at all.
> > 
> > I enabled it via /proc/acpi/wakeup (it was disabled initially) (the
> > S-state in that file only mentions S5, but I guess that should include
> > all the less sleepy states too). No effect. I tried with and without the
> > quickstart device.
> 
> Perhaps this is simply a hw defect, have you seen the button
> working under Windows? Maybe at some point some liquid
> got inside the keyboard around that button?

Unlikely. I have 2 of these laptops, same behavior. Never saw them with
Windows.

> The main keyboard buttons are typically membrane style buttons.
> 
> But extra media keys might be more remote control style, where
> there are not rubber domes beneath hard plastic keys, but the
> keys themselves are rubber, with some carbon conductor on
> the bottom and they directly connect 2 copper pads on the PCB.
>
> These remote style buttons are quite sensitive to dirt getting
> underneath (just like the buttons in a typical TV remote).
> 
> Assuming you can get things disassembled easily you may want
> to try and clean things.

These ones are more like a phone touchscreen ... it's just a long solid
plastic sheet, no distinct edges (annoying), with leds underneath. All
the led's get illuminated when touched, even this mysterious "info" key.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-01 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-31 11:16 [PATCH 0/2] platform/x86: Add ACPI quickstart button driver Armin Wolf
2024-01-31 11:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform/x86: Add ACPI quickstart button (PNP0C32) driver Armin Wolf
2024-02-06 10:37   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-01-31 11:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] platform/x86: toshiba_acpi: Add quirk for buttons on Z830 Armin Wolf
2024-01-31 15:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] platform/x86: Add ACPI quickstart button driver Dennis Nezic
2024-01-31 17:07   ` Armin Wolf
2024-01-31 17:17     ` Dennis Nezic
2024-01-31 17:36       ` Armin Wolf
2024-02-01 14:09         ` Dennis Nezic
2024-02-01 14:44           ` Hans de Goede
2024-02-01 14:58             ` Dennis Nezic [this message]
2024-02-01 15:03               ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-24 14:55 ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-25 20:01   ` Armin Wolf
2024-03-25 21:37   ` Arvid Norlander
2024-03-27 20:16 ` Hans de Goede

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