From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
paulmck@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
Cc: "Daniel\
Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
"Viresh\
Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Subject: Re:
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 12:29:30 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1650680264.0sj0tnkzx7.astroid@bobo.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsm55d3f.ffs@tglx>
Excerpts from Thomas Gleixner's message of April 23, 2022 1:53 am:
> On Wed, Apr 13 2022 at 15:11, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>> So we traced the problem down to possibly a misunderstanding between
>> decrementer clock event device and core code.
>>
>> The decrementer is only oneshot*ish*. It actually needs to either be
>> reprogrammed or shut down otherwise it just continues to cause
>> interrupts.
>
> I always thought that PPC had sane timers. That's really disillusioning.
My comment was probably a bit misleading explanation of the whole
situation. This weirdness is actually in software in the powerpc
clock event driver due to a recent change I made assuming the clock
event goes to oneshot-stopped.
The hardware is relatively sane I think, global synchronized constant
rate high frequency clock distributed to the CPUs so reads don't
go off-core. And per-CPU "decrementer" event interrupt at the same
frequency as the clock -- program it to a +ve value and it decrements
until zero then creates basically a level triggered interrupt.
Before my change, the decrementer interrupt would always clear the
interrupt at entry. The event_handler usually programs another
timer in so I tried to avoid that first clear counting on the
oneshot_stopped callback to clear the interrupt if there was no
other timer.
>> Before commit 35de589cb879, it was sort of two-shot. The initial
>> interrupt at the programmed time would set its internal next_tb variable
>> to ~0 and call the ->event_handler(). If that did not set_next_event or
>> stop the timer, the interrupt will fire again immediately, notice
>> next_tb is ~0, and only then stop the decrementer interrupt.
>>
>> So that was already kind of ugly, this patch just turned it into a hang.
>>
>> The problem happens when the tick is stopped with an event still
>> pending, then tick_nohz_handler() is called, but it bails out because
>> tick_stopped == 1 so the device never gets programmed again, and so it
>> keeps firing.
>>
>> How to fix it? Before commit a7cba02deced, powerpc's decrementer was
>> really oneshot, but we would like to avoid doing that because it requires
>> additional programming of the hardware on each timer interrupt. We have
>> the ONESHOT_STOPPED state which seems to be just about what we want.
>>
>> Did the ONESHOT_STOPPED patch just miss this case, or is there a reason
>> we don't stop it here? This patch seems to fix the hang (not heavily
>> tested though).
>
> This was definitely overlooked, but it's arguable it is is not required
> for real oneshot clockevent devices. This should only handle the case
> where the interrupt was already pending.
>
> The ONESHOT_STOPPED state was introduced to handle the case where the
> last timer gets canceled, so the already programmed event does not fire.
>
> It was not necessarily meant to "fix" clockevent devices which are
> pretending to be ONESHOT, but keep firing over and over.
>
> That, said. I'm fine with the change along with a big fat comment why
> this is required.
Thanks for taking a look and confirming. I just sent a patch with a
comment and what looks like another missed case. Hopefully it's okay.
Thanks,
Nick
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-23 2:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-05 21:41 rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-06 9:31 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-06 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-06 18:25 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-06 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-07 2:26 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-07 10:07 ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-07 15:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-07 17:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-07 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-07 23:14 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-08 1:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 7:23 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-08 10:02 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-08 14:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 14:25 ` Zhouyi Zhou
2022-04-10 11:33 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-11 3:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-12 6:53 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-12 13:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 13:52 ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-08 14:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 14:42 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-08 15:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-08 17:02 ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-04-13 5:11 ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-13 6:10 ` Low-res tick handler device not going to ONESHOT_STOPPED when tick is stopped (was: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU) Nicholas Piggin
2022-04-14 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-04-22 15:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-23 2:29 ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
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