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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rust: alloc: implement `extend` for `Vec`
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:02:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D9DM3AR3FUAF.6JSNSB9WAJ4T@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aAfL-e6qA9oBce5t@cassiopeiae>

On Wed Apr 23, 2025 at 2:03 AM JST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> Well, that turned out to be an interesting rabbit hole.
>> 
>> Leveraging the existing traits seems a bit difficult:
>> 
>> - `ExactSizeIterator` cannot be implemented for adapters that increase the
>>   length of their iterators, because if one of them is already `usize::MAX` long
>>   then the size wouldn't be exact anymore. [1]
>> 
>> - And `TrustedLen` cannot be implemented for adapters that make an iterator
>>   shorter, because if the iterator returns more than `usize::MAX` items (i.e.
>>   has an upper bound set to `None`) then the adapter can't predict the actual
>>   length. [2]
>
> Why is this a problem for the above implementation of Vec::extend()?
>
> I just looked it up and it seems that std [1] does the same thing. Do I miss
> anything?
>
> [1] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/library/alloc/src/vec/spec_extend.rs#L25

The problem I see is that if you try and do something like:

  vec.extend((0..10).into_iter().skip(2));

with the standard library, then the use of `skip` will remove the
`TrustedLen` implementation from the resulting iterator and
`extend_desugared` will be called instead of `extend_trusted`, which
could add some unwanted (and unexpected) overhead.

If we want an implementation of `extend` as simple as "confidently
increase the length of the vector and copy the new items into it, once",
then we need a trait that can be implemented on both shrinking and
extending adapters. Anything else and we might trick the caller into a
code path less efficient than expected (i.e. my original version, which
generates more core even for the obvious cases that are `extend_with`
and `extend_from_slice`). Or if we rely on `TrustedLen` solely in the
kernel, then `extend` could not be called at all with this particular
iterator.

There is also the fact that `TrustedLen` is behind a nightly feature,
which I guess is another obstacle for using it.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-23  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-06 13:01 [PATCH v3] rust: alloc: implement `extend` for `Vec` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-07 11:01 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-08 13:34   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-21  8:15     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-22 17:03       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-23  1:02         ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2025-04-23  8:51           ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-23  9:40             ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-23 16:03               ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-24 11:50                 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-24 13:36                   ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-23  9:47           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-23 13:15             ` Alexandre Courbot
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-04-07 16:33 Benno Lossin
2025-04-08 14:00 ` Alexandre Courbot

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