From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rust: alloc: implement `extend` for `Vec`
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 09:03:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAkPXBHNDugnXrhc@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D9DX39CF2RB7.IM219BZLVMCY@nvidia.com>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 06:40:07PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> On Wed Apr 23, 2025 at 5:51 PM JST, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 10:02:58AM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> >> The problem I see is that if you try and do something like:
> >>
> >> vec.extend((0..10).into_iter().skip(2));
> >>
> >> with the standard library, then the use of `skip` will remove the
> >> `TrustedLen` implementation from the resulting iterator and
> >> `extend_desugared` will be called instead of `extend_trusted`, which
> >> could add some unwanted (and unexpected) overhead.
> >>
> >> If we want an implementation of `extend` as simple as "confidently
> >> increase the length of the vector and copy the new items into it, once",
> >> then we need a trait that can be implemented on both shrinking and
> >> extending adapters. Anything else and we might trick the caller into a
> >> code path less efficient than expected (i.e. my original version, which
> >> generates more core even for the obvious cases that are `extend_with`
> >> and `extend_from_slice`). Or if we rely on `TrustedLen` solely in the
> >> kernel, then `extend` could not be called at all with this particular
> >> iterator.
> >>
> >> There is also the fact that `TrustedLen` is behind a nightly feature,
> >> which I guess is another obstacle for using it.
> >
> > The stdlib alloc crate relies on specialization to speed up methods
> > related to iterators. We can't use specialization, so losing these
> > optimizations is simply a cost of not using the upstream alloc library
> > that we have to accept.
>
> Yeah I was surprised to see
>
> impl<T, I, A: Allocator> SpecExtend<T, I> for Vec<T, A>
> where
> I: Iterator<Item = T>
>
> and
>
> impl<T, I, A: Allocator> SpecExtend<T, I> for Vec<T, A>
> where
> I: TrustedLen<Item = T>
>
> in the standard library, which clearly looks like an overlap. Didn't
> know it was relying on a non-standard feature.
>
> That's going to limit what we can do in the kernel, but nonetheless if
> we can support only the cases that can be optimized I think we would
> have our bases covered.
I think if it's a critical path and we really need the performance, we
can use a non-standard/non-stable feature or get that stabilized.
Regards,
Boqun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-23 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-06 13:01 [PATCH v3] rust: alloc: implement `extend` for `Vec` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-07 11:01 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-08 13:34 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-21 8:15 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-22 17:03 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-23 1:02 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-23 8:51 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-23 9:40 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-23 16:03 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-04-24 11:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-24 13:36 ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-23 9:47 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-23 13:15 ` Alexandre Courbot
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2025-04-07 16:33 Benno Lossin
2025-04-08 14:00 ` Alexandre Courbot
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