From: Shuah <shuah@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
sashal@kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
conduct@kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
shuah <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Sasha Levin is halucinating, non human entity, has no ethics and no memory
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 15:14:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46f581c6-bb61-4163-91a5-27b90838dca8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aG2B6UDvk2WB7RWx@duo.ucw.cz>
On 7/8/25 14:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> So... I'm afraid subject is pretty accurate. I assume there's actual
> human being called "Sasha Levin" somewhere, but I interact with him
> via email, and while some interactions may be by human, some are
> written by LLM but not clearly marked as such.
>
> And that's not okay -- because LLMs lie, have no ethics, and no
> memory, so there's no point arguing with them. Its just wasting
> everyone's time. People are not very thrilled by 'Markus Elfring' on
> the lists, as he seems to ignore feedback, but at least that's actual
> human, not a damn LLM that interacts as human but then ignores
> everything.
>
You aren't talking to an LLM - My understanding is that Sasha is sending
these patches (generated with LLM assist) and discussing them on mailing
lists.
Do you have links/threads you can share to show how feedback is being
ignored?
> Do we need bot rules on the list?
We have to get humans to follow agreed upon rules of conduct before
coming up with bot rules.
>
> Oh, and if you find my email offensive, feel free to ask LLM to change
> the tone.
>
I am sorry this isn't how we treat our fellow developers - Please take
steps to make amends.
thanks,
-- Shuah (On behalf of the Code of Conduct Committee)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-09 21:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-08 20:39 Sasha Levin is halucinating, non human entity, has no ethics and no memory Pavel Machek
2025-07-09 21:14 ` Shuah [this message]
2025-07-10 6:24 ` Pavel Machek
2025-07-27 9:08 ` Pavel Machek
2025-07-29 17:23 ` Shuah
2025-07-10 17:56 ` Jonathan Corbet
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