[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD]

Hi,

	I'd like to known if it's possible to update the COPYING

	  NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover the so-called "standalone"
	  applications that use U-Boot services by means of the jump table
	  provided by U-Boot exactly for this purpose - this is merely
	  considered normal use of U-Boot, and does *not* fall under the
	  heading of "derived work".

	to also include the API as a non derived work as the standalone?

Best Regards,
J.

[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[Mike Frysinger]

On Monday 18 May 2009 16:31:39 Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> 	I'd like to known if it's possible to update the COPYING
>
> 	  NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover the so-called "standalone"
> 	  applications that use U-Boot services by means of the jump table
> 	  provided by U-Boot exactly for this purpose - this is merely
> 	  considered normal use of U-Boot, and does *not* fall under the
> 	  heading of "derived work".
>
> 	to also include the API as a non derived work as the standalone?

that sounds like a bad idea.  then people could add all the API hooks they 
wanted rather than just the ones we deemed they could use.  basically you're 
opening up all of u-boot for direct access.

what exactly are you trying to accomplish ?
-mike
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[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD]

On 17:16 Mon 18 May     , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 18 May 2009 16:31:39 Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> > 	I'd like to known if it's possible to update the COPYING
> >
> > 	  NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover the so-called "standalone"
> > 	  applications that use U-Boot services by means of the jump table
> > 	  provided by U-Boot exactly for this purpose - this is merely
> > 	  considered normal use of U-Boot, and does *not* fall under the
> > 	  heading of "derived work".
> >
> > 	to also include the API as a non derived work as the standalone?
> 
> that sounds like a bad idea.  then people could add all the API hooks they 
> wanted rather than just the ones we deemed they could use.  basically you're 
> opening up all of u-boot for direct access.
The idea is not to open every think but allow as in the kernel allow just a part of it

> what exactly are you trying to accomplish ?
I've to write an application that need to use the mmc and net but can not
be under GPL

Best Regards,
J.

[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[Mike Frysinger]

On Monday 18 May 2009 17:20:49 Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> On 17:16 Mon 18 May     , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Monday 18 May 2009 16:31:39 Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> > > 	I'd like to known if it's possible to update the COPYING
> > >
> > > 	  NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover the so-called "standalone"
> > > 	  applications that use U-Boot services by means of the jump table
> > > 	  provided by U-Boot exactly for this purpose - this is merely
> > > 	  considered normal use of U-Boot, and does *not* fall under the
> > > 	  heading of "derived work".
> > >
> > > 	to also include the API as a non derived work as the standalone?
> >
> > that sounds like a bad idea.  then people could add all the API hooks
> > they wanted rather than just the ones we deemed they could use. 
> > basically you're opening up all of u-boot for direct access.
>
> The idea is not to open every think but allow as in the kernel allow just a
> part of it

which is a loop hole that i dont think we should follow

> > what exactly are you trying to accomplish ?
>
> I've to write an application that need to use the mmc and net but can not
> be under GPL

so ask for the API to be extended.  we dont have any functions for working 
with file systems and i think that's reasonable.
-mike

[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD,

In message <20090518212049.GJ17539@game.jcrosoft.org> you wrote:
>
> I've to write an application that need to use the mmc and net but can not
> be under GPL

MMC is not exported to API, is it?

And why cannot your application be under GPL?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] [RFC] API Licence

[Rafal Jaworowski]

On 2009-05-19, at 00:13, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

> Dear Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD,
>
> In message <20090518212049.GJ17539@game.jcrosoft.org> you wrote:
>>
>> I've to write an application that need to use the mmc and net but  
>> can not
>> be under GPL
>
> MMC is not exported to API, is it?

It is, in the same way as all other storage means: the API lets to  
read raw blocks from it.

kind regards,
Rafal