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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [PATCH 1/1] image: usage of value ~0UL for intrd_high
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 16:23:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210109212301.GL2292@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B6C25772-C200-4818-AB59-08FF1598C1CF@gmx.de>

On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 08:59:01PM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> Am 9. Januar 2021 20:40:04 MEZ schrieb Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>:
> >On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 08:33:40PM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >> On 1/9/21 7:58 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 08:47:07PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> >> > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 8:06 PM Heinrich Schuchardt
> ><xypron.glpk@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > The comment for initrd_high in the coding and in README were
> >contradicting
> >> > > > and neither fully described what the coding does.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Clarify the usage of the special value ~0UL for the environment
> >variable
> >> > > > initrd_high.
> >> > > 
> >> > > All those F:s are hard to read in the comments and documentation
> >and
> >> > > typo prone. I would prefer to rephrase like "all 1:s value in 32-
> >or
> >> > > 64-bit format" or alike.
> >> > 
> >> > If we're going to improve this we should also note it's discouraged
> >> > unless you know for certain there will be no overlap and it's
> >strongly
> >> > discouraged in default environments.
> >> 
> >> What exactly is discouraged?
> >> 
> >> * setting initrd_high to a value != ~0? Here I would agree.
> >> * setting intird_high to ~0? Why should we copy initrd to a
> >>   different place? Is it for some outdated Linux release?
> >
> >We should always default to allowing the initrd to be relocated because
> >we can see (in many cases) overlap that will lead to failure to boot
> >but
> >this forces us to ignore that.  Having good default load values means
> >we
> >don't have a problem here.
> 
> We have an initrd that is already in memory. What could it overlap
> with that is not already overwritten?

Having the kernel and initrd too close in memory has the kernel BSS
overwrite the initrd.  This has happened time and time again before
I went around making some platforms have reasonable (ie kernel early,
ramdisk in lowmem but beyond where a kernel+bss can be, etc) defaults
and pushing others to do the same.

> Can you provide the text you want to see here?

Off-hand, it should look more like the big comment block in
include/configs/ti_armv7_common.h and reference the Linux booting on
arm/arm64 documents while noting that other architectures have the same
fundamental issues and their exact limits may or may not be as well
documented.

-- 
Tom
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-09 18:06 [PATCH 1/1] image: usage of value ~0UL for intrd_high Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-09 18:47 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-09 18:58   ` Tom Rini
2021-01-09 19:33     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-09 19:40       ` Tom Rini
2021-01-09 19:59         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-09 21:23           ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-01-09 23:23             ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-10 12:07               ` Adam Ford
2021-01-10 15:36               ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-10 12:05             ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-10 13:43               ` Tom Rini
2021-01-10 16:20                 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-15 18:43                   ` Tom Rini

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