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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
Cc: "Simon Glass" <sjg@chromium.org>,
	"U-Boot Mailing List" <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	"Heinrich Schuchardt" <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
	"Bin Meng" <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>, "Stefan Roese" <sr@denx.de>,
	"Marek Behún" <marek.behun@nic.cz>,
	"Sean Anderson" <seanga2@gmail.com>,
	"Aaron Williams" <awilliams@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Support for U-Boot phases in Kconfig
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 16:42:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210811204236.GK858@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd0ecaba-4715-5d13-8c78-0eec8c1d8c49@seco.com>

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On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:14:51PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/11/21 10:17 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 08:03:00AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 07:47, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 06:56:31AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 13:38, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > I need to take another pass at converting a bunch of symbols, to see
> > > > > > where we're at.  Probably the biggest chunk of progress next would be to
> > > > > > start converting CONFIG_SYS_xxx to SYS_xxx and moving defines out of
> > > > > > config.h and in to something else.  I'm taking a peek at some of the
> > > > > > remaining PCI ones now.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about we set a deadline for this? It has gone on for too long and
> > > > > we just need to drop these CONFIGs. It's probably a higher priority
> > > > > than a Kconfig change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was expecting that the config.h files would go away and we would use
> > > > > Kconfig (or DT) for everything. What sort of things don't fit into
> > > > > that model?
> > > >
> > > > Environment is the hard one to move out from config.h and in to, well, I
> > > 
> > > Well you know my views on that :-)
> > > 
> > > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/1382763695-2849-4-git-send-email-sjg@chromium.org/
> > > 
> > > I still think it makes more sense than #defines and I can resurrect
> > > that series if you like.
> 
> This would be nice. I was thinking about doing something like this for
> LIL, to make writing tests easier.

I was thinking of mentioning LIL, even, here.  Converting (to start
with, just a board or two) that implement distro boot from the current
env scheme to another env scheme is going to go quite a ways to showing
if the proposed idea is going to be workable enough or not.

> > That might work, yeah.  I just also want to focus on less things in
> > progress at once.  That too I think has been part of why everything is
> > taking so long.
> > 
> > > > don't know what.  I think there's also a handful of symbols like
> > > > CONFIG_SPL_MAX_SIZE that are a little tricky to convert directly (they
> > > > do math based on other symbols) rather than just as evaluate-and-set.
> > > 
> > > We can either evaluate them and put the answer in as the defconfig
> > > value...or perhaps ask Masahiro to support evaluation in kconfig?!
> > 
> > I do forget what kind of operations are allowed in Kconfig at this
> > point, it might be possible now, yes.  And if not, something worth
> > trying.
> 
> At the moment there are conditionals for dependencies and defaults [1].
> It doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to allow for arbitrary
> arithmetic. In particular, we could really get 80% of the functionality
> with just + (and perhaps & or |).
> 
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kbuild/kconfig-language.html#menu-dependencies

Yeah, the addition of +- I think really would cover everything that's
not "this doesn't belong in CONFIG space really" I think.  The only
maybe-hangups are that we say for example on TI platforms:
#define CONFIG_SPL_MAX_SIZE (SRAM_SCRATCH_SPACE_ADDR - CONFIG_SPL_TEXT_BASE)

where SRAM_SCRATCH_SPACE_ADDR isn't a CONFIG symbol, on purpose.  But in
turn, maybe that means we just want to re-think the symbol and have a
choice instead.  Some platforms end up being "automatic" size like the
above.  Other platforms like imx* might be "fixed" size and then define
0x10000 or whatever.

It's all the kind of details that come up when picking a symbol and
digging in.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-11 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-07 22:23 RFC: Support for U-Boot phases in Kconfig Simon Glass
2021-08-09 19:11 ` Tom Rini
2021-08-10 14:58   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-10 19:38     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 12:56       ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 13:47         ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 14:03           ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 14:17             ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 14:26               ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 15:40                 ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 18:28                   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 21:19                     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 20:14               ` Sean Anderson
2021-08-11 20:42                 ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-08-11 14:02         ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 14:11           ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 14:31             ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11 14:47               ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 21:04                 ` Tom Rini
2021-08-11  9:57   ` Grant Likely
2021-08-11 12:58     ` Simon Glass
2021-08-11 13:47       ` Grant Likely
2021-08-11 13:52         ` Simon Glass
2021-08-09 22:31 ` Sean Anderson
2021-08-10 20:32   ` Simon Glass

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