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From: Abdellatif El Khlifi <abdellatif.elkhlifi@arm.com>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de, nd@arm.com
Subject: Re: Adding EFI runtime support to the Arm's FF-A bus
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:01:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231218170156.GA319765@e130802.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttok689d.fsf@bloch.sibelius.xs4all.nl>

Hi Mark,

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 05:47:42PM +0100, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:53:46 +0000
> > From: Abdellatif El Khlifi <abdellatif.elkhlifi@arm.com>
> 
> Hi Abdellatif,
> 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I'd like to ask for advice regarding adding EFI RT support to the Arm's FF-A bus
> > in U-Boot.
> > 
> > The objective is to enable the FF-A messaging APIs in EFI RT to be
> > used for comms with the secure world. This will help getting/setting
> > EFI variables through FF-A.
> > 
> > The existing FF-A APIs in U-Boot call the DM APIs (which are not available at RT).
> > 
> > Two possible solutions:
> > 
> > 1/ having the entire U-Boot in RT space (as Simon stated in this discussion[1])
> 
> I don't think this is a terribly good idea.  With this approach orders
> of magnitude more code will be present in kernel address space one the
> OS kernel is running and calling into the EFI runtime.  Including code
> that may access hardware devices that are now under OS control.  It
> will be nigh impossible to audit all that code and make sure that only
> a safe subset of it gets called.  So...
> 
> > 
> > 2/ Create an RT variant for the FF-A APIs needed.
> >       These RT variant don't call the DM APIs
> >       (e.g: ffa_mm_communicate_runtime, ffa_sync_send_receive_runtime, ...)
> > 
> > What do you recommend please ?
> 
> ...this is what I would recommend.  Preferably in a way that refactors
> the code such that the low-level functionality is shared between the
> DM and non-DM APIs.

That's my preferred solution, thanks.

Cheers,
Abdellatif

      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-18 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-14 15:53 Adding EFI runtime support to the Arm's FF-A bus Abdellatif El Khlifi
2023-12-14 16:47 ` Mark Kettenis
2023-12-14 19:47   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-18 15:01     ` Simon Glass
2023-12-18 20:59       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2023-12-19 10:11         ` Michael Walle
2023-12-19 12:27           ` Mark Kettenis
2023-12-19 12:47             ` Michael Walle
2023-12-19 15:40               ` Tom Rini
2023-12-20  6:17               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-20 15:43                 ` Peter Robinson
2023-12-20 22:57                   ` Shantur Rathore
2023-12-21  6:29                     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-21 14:36                       ` Shantur Rathore
2023-12-27 14:06                         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-19 15:22         ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2023-12-20  4:47         ` Simon Glass
2023-12-18 16:59     ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2024-01-08 14:12       ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2024-01-08 14:27         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2024-01-08 14:35           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-01-08 16:34             ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2023-12-18 17:01   ` Abdellatif El Khlifi [this message]

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