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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Shantur Rathore <i@shantur.com>
Cc: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@gmail.com>,
	Michael Walle <mwalle@kernel.org>,
	Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,
	xypron.glpk@gmx.de, Abdellatif.ElKhlifi@arm.com,
	Drew.Reed@arm.com, nd@arm.com, sjg@chromium.org,
	u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: Re: Adding EFI runtime support to the Arm's FF-A bus
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:06:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZYwvefJyuMdKXGio@hera> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABEcMwU==WKegXX0kKiVecAEmQQ=752Qiw8kFyF9oUC4w7_GEw@mail.gmail.com>


[...]

> > > > > > I know. Last time I checked CentOS (or was it Ubuntu?) tried to
> > > > > > set EFI variables and the installer just failed. Might be fixed now,
> > > > > > though.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not. The error message is less scary in distros nowadays, but
> > > > > setting the variable for Boot0000 is still not working. That being
> > > > > said I have a plan to fix it for variables stored in a file, that's
> > > > > why we standardized the efi variable format in EBBR.
> > >
> > > Does this mean supporting SetVariableRT for files ?
> > > If yes, would it work without the driver model in runtime?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > The reasoning here is pretty simple. You can't keep alive drivers etc
> > for devices that the *kernel* eventually owns. The proposal is to
> > ignore the EFI spec and teach the kernel to write those directly. We
> > already do that when the variables are stored in an RPMB, we need to
> > figure out a decent scalable architecture for the rest.
> >
> Thanks for explaining this.
> It would be a good idea to provide EFI var storage info like location,
> offset, maxsize to linux
> and linux can modify vars as required.
>
> Eg.
>
> location=espfile://u-boot-efi.vars offset=0 maxsize=-1
> or
> location=spi://0 offset=0x3D0000 maxsize=0xFFFF
>

Yes, you need the flash, offset and size, but I as trying to figure out if
we hand over those as an EFI config table. I haven't managed to do any
coding though yet.

/Ilias
> Then the linux kernel is able to modify vars correctly.
> I think SPI might be simpler to implement vs file as there can be.
> many different
> ESP partitions on multiple drives or no ESP partition at all.
>
> Kind regards,
> Shantur
>
> > /Ilias
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Shantur

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-27 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-14 15:53 Adding EFI runtime support to the Arm's FF-A bus Abdellatif El Khlifi
2023-12-14 16:47 ` Mark Kettenis
2023-12-14 19:47   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-18 15:01     ` Simon Glass
2023-12-18 20:59       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2023-12-19 10:11         ` Michael Walle
2023-12-19 12:27           ` Mark Kettenis
2023-12-19 12:47             ` Michael Walle
2023-12-19 15:40               ` Tom Rini
2023-12-20  6:17               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-20 15:43                 ` Peter Robinson
2023-12-20 22:57                   ` Shantur Rathore
2023-12-21  6:29                     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-21 14:36                       ` Shantur Rathore
2023-12-27 14:06                         ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2023-12-19 15:22         ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2023-12-20  4:47         ` Simon Glass
2023-12-18 16:59     ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2024-01-08 14:12       ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2024-01-08 14:27         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2024-01-08 14:35           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-01-08 16:34             ` Abdellatif El Khlifi
2023-12-18 17:01   ` Abdellatif El Khlifi

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