From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Alexey Charkov <alchark@flipper.net>
Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de,
"Kory Maincent (TI.com)" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
Hugo Villeneuve <hvilleneuve@dimonoff.com>,
Andrew Goodbody <andrew.goodbody@linaro.org>,
Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>,
Anshul Dalal <anshuld@ti.com>, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
Martin Schwan <m.schwan@phytec.de>,
Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
Mattijs Korpershoek <mkorpershoek@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] pxe_utils: small fixups, implement BLS type 1 boot on top of them
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2026 11:21:15 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260604172115.GV627328@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKTNdwEt+CpeN8JssJr_JFowXi8yt8QPFg77=OKG0BeOri43MQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 09:16:58PM +0400, Alexey Charkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 8:05 PM Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 07:31:05PM +0400, Alexey Charkov wrote:
> >
> > > Add support for the Boot Loader Specification (BLS) type 1 boot entries,
> > > as generated by default by systemd's kernel-install when loader=bls.
> > >
> > > Given that the format of BLS entries is pretty much the same as PXElinux,
> > > reuse the existing library for the parsing logic.
> > >
> > > BLS type 2 entries are out of scope, as they are effectively just EFI
> > > applications and should be booted as such.
> > >
> > > This implementation is also only allowing a single top-sorting entry to
> > > boot, as the standard boot infrastruture currently doesn't support
> > > multiple entries per partition-bootmeth tuple. I have a proposed extension
> > > to enable that and will post it separately as RFC - that enables the use
> > > of `bootflow menu` to select the kernel to boot without jumping through
> > > several menus with different behavior as is currently required with
> > > extlinux.conf.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Alexey Charkov <alchark@flipper.net>
> >
> > This is good to see, thanks for posting it. One concern I have is that
> > out of 1529 platforms, this would be enabled on 1392 of them. And the
> > size growth is around 1.5 kilobytes. Is there some smaller percentage of
> > platforms this should be "default y" for ? Or is the expectation that
> > something like Debian will be configuring for this moving forward, so
> > yes even something like PowerPC platforms be using this? Thanks!
>
> Well this is the config format that systemd's kernel-install produces
> out of the box, and it doesn't require EFI support unlike UKI (a.k.a.
> BLS type 2). So one could argue that any system shipping with systemd
> benefits directly. In my view, that makes it more accessible for end
> users than e.g. bootmeth_extlinux, which is also "default y" but I
> could only find a suitable config generator for it with device tree
> support in Debian (not in Fedora, nor in Gentoo out of my extremely
> representative sample of N=3 distros).
>
> Happy to make it conditional on whatever platforms find this helpful
> though, or drop "default y" altogether. I personally only care about
> ARM, and Rockchip in particular :)
Right. What I'm asking is, do you know how many distros are planning to
adopt BLS type 1 support by default? And since you're on Rockchip, why
not just use BLS type 2?
--
Tom
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-04 15:31 [PATCH 0/7] pxe_utils: small fixups, implement BLS type 1 boot on top of them Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 1/7] pxe_utils: fix W=1 kernel-doc warnings Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 16:05 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-25 15:25 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 15:28 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 2/7] pxe_utils: accept "options" as synonym for "append" Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 16:06 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] pxe_utils: extract per-entry key parsing into parse_label_keys() Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 16:06 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-18 15:12 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 15:28 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 15:55 ` Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 4/7] pxe_utils: export per-entry label helpers Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 5/7] pxe_utils: optionally ignore unknown keys in parse_label_keys() Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 6/7] pxe_utils: accept "title" inside a label as a synonym for "menu label" Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 15:31 ` [PATCH 7/7] boot: add a minimal bootmeth for the Boot Loader Specification Alexey Charkov
2026-06-12 18:24 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 15:28 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 15:51 ` Alexey Charkov
2026-06-25 16:24 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 16:57 ` Alexey Charkov
2026-06-25 17:24 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-25 17:29 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-25 17:32 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-26 10:45 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-26 13:47 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-29 5:45 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-29 14:24 ` Tom Rini
2026-06-25 17:25 ` Simon Glass
2026-06-04 16:05 ` [PATCH 0/7] pxe_utils: small fixups, implement BLS type 1 boot on top of them Tom Rini
2026-06-04 17:16 ` Alexey Charkov
2026-06-04 17:21 ` Tom Rini [this message]
2026-06-04 17:35 ` Alexey Charkov
2026-06-12 18:23 ` Simon Glass
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