[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <m365dc1px2.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> the Gmane Administrator wrote:
>
> We have received a request for adding the
> u-boot-users at lists.sourceforge.net mailing list to the Gmane
> mail-to-news gateway/archive. A subscription request message has been
> sent. If this is contrary to your wishes, please send a mail to
> admin at gmane.org saying so, and the list will be removed from Gmane.
...
> If you wish to import older archives into Gmane, send a message to
> the Gmane administrators with the URL of a Unix mbox archive of the
> mailing list.

I can provide complete logs of the ppcboot-users and the u-boot-users
mailing lists. I think this is an excellent chance to get a seachable
archive of both.

However, my archives include  not  only  postings  sent  through  the
mailing  lists,  but also some messages that were sent directly to my
address. I am certain that  they  do  not  include  any  confidential
information,  and  that they are all U-Boot related.


Is there anybody who sent me such "private" communication who objects
against putting these messages into a public archive?


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Marius Groeger]

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

> In message <m365dc1px2.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> the Gmane Administrator wrote:
> ...
> > If you wish to import older archives into Gmane, send a message to
> > the Gmane administrators with the URL of a Unix mbox archive of the
> > mailing list.
>
> I can provide complete logs of the ppcboot-users and the u-boot-users
> mailing lists. I think this is an excellent chance to get a seachable
> archive of both.
>
> However, my archives include  not  only  postings  sent  through  the
> mailing  lists,  but also some messages that were sent directly to my
> address. I am certain that  they  do  not  include  any  confidential
> information,  and  that they are all U-Boot related.
>
>
> Is there anybody who sent me such "private" communication who objects
> against putting these messages into a public archive?

Do you honestly expect people to rummage through their logs and brains
just because you poured all mails into one bucket? I really don't have
time for this. Therefore, please consider all my mails I sent to you
without copying the list to be of private nature which I don't want to
be disclosed. I would strongly advise you to excercise this policy for
everyone else as well.

Have you contacted Sourceforge? They should have complete log of all
relevant mails.

Thank you,
Marius

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[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Vladimir A. Gurevich]

Hello Wolfgang,

Wolfgang Denk wrote:

>However, my archives include  not  only  postings  sent  through  the
>mailing  lists,  but also some messages that were sent directly to my
>address. I am certain that  they  do  not  include  any  confidential
>information,  and  that they are all U-Boot related.
>  
>
I remember we had exchanged a couple of private emails.

They DO NOT contain any confidential information and you
DO have my permission to use them.

Thanks for everything you had done.

I really hope other people will find a couple of minutes
to send similar mesages.

Vladimir Gurevich

[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Tolunay Orkun]

> In message <m365dc1px2.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> the Gmane Administrator
> wrote:
>
> I can provide complete logs of the ppcboot-users and the u-boot-users
> mailing lists. I think this is an excellent chance to get a seachable
> archive of both.

I am all for searchable archives and honestly I am not excited about
sourceforge search capabilities (often multiple word searches do not work
etc).

However, with newsgroups there comes the increase in spam! Sf.net
subscriptions are receiving surprisingly low levels of spam as far as I
can see. If it is archived in newsgroups, I strongly prefer the archives
are filters and email addresses are either removed or shortened so they
cannot be used when harvested. For example, yahoo lists convert email
address to something like "wd at den..."

> However, my archives include  not  only  postings  sent  through  the
> mailing  lists,  but also some messages that were sent directly to my
> address. I am certain that  they  do  not  include  any  confidential
> information,  and  that they are all U-Boot related.

I prefer private mail sent directly to you stay private. Obviously, it is
highly likely that it will be u-boot related but the sender did not feel
comfortable to ask send in the list etc. in the first place.

> Is there anybody who sent me such "private" communication who objects
> against putting these messages into a public archive?

I belive direct emails should stay off list. I hope you can continue to
honor that.

Best regards,
Tolunay Orkun

[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <33805.216.110.51.8.1079455755.squirrel@www.orkun.us> you wrote:
>
> I am all for searchable archives and honestly I am not excited about
> sourceforge search capabilities (often multiple word searches do not work
> etc).

I agree. I'm not happy with SF either.

> However, with newsgroups there comes the increase in spam! Sf.net
> subscriptions are receiving surprisingly low levels of spam as far as I
> can see. If it is archived in newsgroups, I strongly prefer the archives
> are filters and email addresses are either removed or shortened so they
> cannot be used when harvested. For example, yahoo lists convert email
> address to something like "wd at den..."

Have a look how Gmane handles this.

BTW: it was not my idee to register with Gmane, I  just  happened  to
get asked if it's OK with me. Which it is.

> I prefer private mail sent directly to you stay private. Obviously, it is

Marius raised concers before, so I excluded all such stuff.

> I belive direct emails should stay off list. I hope you can continue to
> honor that.

Of course I will.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87  Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88  Email: wd at denx.de
The universe is all a spin-off of the Big Bang.

[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Rod Boyce]

Wolfgang,

I know we have exchanged personal e-mails and I my permission for them being searched and indexed by anybody.

Regards,
Rod Boyce

-----Original Message-----
From: u-boot-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:u-boot-users-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Vladimir
A. Gurevich
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:07 PM
To: Wolfgang Denk
Cc: u-boot-users at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to
Gmane


Hello Wolfgang,

Wolfgang Denk wrote:

>However, my archives include  not  only  postings  sent  through  the
>mailing  lists,  but also some messages that were sent directly to my
>address. I am certain that  they  do  not  include  any  confidential
>information,  and  that they are all U-Boot related.
>  
>
I remember we had exchanged a couple of private emails.

They DO NOT contain any confidential information and you
DO have my permission to use them.

Thanks for everything you had done.

I really hope other people will find a couple of minutes
to send similar mesages.

Vladimir Gurevich



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[U-Boot-Users] YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <A3240F62EF3C2749B1A25D3BC9548F41030A49@ExchWENZ02.wenz.global.vpn> you wrote:
> 
> I know we have exchanged personal e-mails and I my permission for them =
> being searched and indexed by anybody.

Thanks Rod, and everybody else, but one Veto is enough. I had to omit
all those messages even if they contained  material  that  definitely
would have been useful to others.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Software Engineering:  Embedded and Realtime Systems,  Embedded Linux
Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87  Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88  Email: wd at denx.de
A modem is a baudy house.