CD ripper/MP3 encoder

CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Charu Chaubal]

Can anyone recommend some programs for Linux on Ultra for ripping CDs and 
encoding MP3's?

strictly for my own personal use, of course.

(I assume this is one application where an Ultra would do much better than an 
x86, even one with much higher MHz rating).

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Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[David S. Miller]

Go to www.freshmeat.net, put "ripper" into the "find" test field,
you'll get a list of about 10 or 11 to choose from.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Chris Salter]

Charu,

> Can anyone recommend some programs for Linux on Ultra for ripping CDs and 
> encoding MP3's?
> 

I use encoder-js found at wopr.campus.se /pub/mpeg_layer_3 and cdrecord.

Have fun...


-Chris

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Chris Salter]

OOPS... I gave you the address of an encoder and cd recorder. For ripping
I use cdparanoia... found at www.xiph.org/paranoia/

Sorry 

-Chris

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Aaron T Porter]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Charu Chaubal wrote:

> Can anyone recommend some programs for Linux on Ultra for ripping CDs and 
> encoding MP3's?

	As davem suggested, check freshmeat.

> (I assume this is one application where an Ultra would do much better than an 
> x86, even one with much higher MHz rating).

	You'd think so, but any modern CPU does just fine at mp3 encoding,
	better than realtime usually. The bottleneck is usually the CD 
	drive, and my personal experience has been the consumer-grade
	ATAPI CD drives are the only ones with greater than 1x audio read
	speeds.  I haven't tried ripping audio tracks on any of my sun
	boxes though, YMMV.

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Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Isaiah Weiner]

> You'd think so, but any modern CPU does just fine at mp3 encoding,
> better than realtime usually. The bottleneck is usually the CD drive,
> and my personal experience has been the consumer-grade ATAPI CD drives
> are the only ones with greater than 1x audio read speeds.  I haven't
> tried ripping audio tracks on any of my sun boxes though, YMMV.

	I definitely agree on the encoding part, even crappy first-batch
Celerons do it without a problem.  But the ability to rip, encode, and
play mp3s at the same time is great.  I haven't found a PC that can do
that -- the ripping process always eats up the I/O of the machine too
much.  Ripping at a different speed, while it uses less I/O, still uses
too much to justify the speed loss.

	Just one more reason /me *heart* sparcs

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	- Isaiah

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Shawn Hooton]

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Isaiah Weiner wrote:
> But the ability to rip, encode, and
> play mp3s at the same time is great.  I haven't found a PC that can do
> that -- the ripping process always eats up the I/O of the machine too
> much.  Ripping at a different speed, while it uses less I/O, still uses
> too much to justify the speed loss.

This is easy!  I have a PII 400 with 1 2GB SCSI2 HD and a 4x SCSI
toshiba CDROM and I encode, rip, and play mp3s all the time.  In fact I
have even compiled code during this process!  Note:  Esd had to be
reniced to -10

> 
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>         - Isaiah

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Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Isaiah Weiner]

> This is easy!  I have a PII 400 with 1 2GB SCSI2 HD and a 4x SCSI
> toshiba CDROM and I encode, rip, and play mp3s all the time.  In fact
> I have even compiled code during this process!  Note:  Esd had to be
> reniced to -10

	In my book, having all SCSI components takes your machine out of
the "PC" classification.  When I think "PC", an IDE disk, IDE CDROM, and
Celeron come to mind.  And you had to renice esd. ;)

	- Isaiah

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Guglielmo Bondioni]

Isaiah Weiner wrote:
>         In my book, having all SCSI components takes your machine out of
> the "PC" classification.
So an Ultra 10 with IDE devices is a PC, right?

bond

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Isaiah Weiner]

> So an Ultra 10 with IDE devices is a PC, right?
> 
> bond

	The cache the cpu has in this case declassifies it from an
otherwise deathly PC label.

	My opinion of Ultra5/10s is not very high. ;)

	- Isaiah

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Guglielmo Bondioni]

Isaiah Weiner wrote:
>         My opinion of Ultra5/10s is not very high. ;)
I bet!
The only Sun class thing about U5/10s is the price ;-)
I think the U10 is the only 'tower' machine that has to be opened
upside-down...

bond

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Isaiah Weiner]

> I think the U10 is the only 'tower' machine that has to be opened
> upside-down...

	And the little metal flaps below (or above, if you've got the case
off)  the floppy have to be bent to add another drive.  It's very
frustrating, and I cut my hands on those more than any other case I've
ever messed with.

	- Isaiah

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Aaron T Porter]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Shawn Hooton wrote:

> This is easy!  I have a PII 400 with 1 2GB SCSI2 HD and a 4x SCSI
> toshiba CDROM and I encode, rip, and play mp3s all the time.  In fact I
> have even compiled code during this process!  Note:  Esd had to be
> reniced to -10

	Do you have a SCSI drive that will read audio tracks at above 1x?
	If so, which brand/model?

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Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Shawn Hooton]

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I have no idea at what speed I rip audio at, how can you tell using
cdparanoia?

I did this:

> time cdparanoia -S 3 1
cdparanoia III release 9.6 (August 17, 1999)
(C) 1999 Monty <monty@xiph.org> and Xiphophorus

Report bugs to paranoia@xiph.org
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/


Ripping from sector       0 (track  1 [0:00.00])
          to sector   13716 (track  1 [3:02.66])

outputting to cdda.wav

 (== PROGRESS == [------------------------------| 013716 00 ] == :^D *
==)

Done.


7.55user 2.09system 1:59.37elapsed 8%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (135major+31498minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[11:55:09] shooton@diablo {~/tmp}
> ls -l
total 31544
-rw-r--r--   1 shooton  devadm   32262428 Feb  9 11:55 cdda.wav


Using the same model Toshiba CDROM(5401 I think) on Solaris I know for a
fact that it can rip @ 3x using this program:

http://www.cybersoft.org/galette/

Aaron T Porter wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Shawn Hooton wrote:
> 
> > This is easy!  I have a PII 400 with 1 2GB SCSI2 HD and a 4x SCSI
> > toshiba CDROM and I encode, rip, and play mp3s all the time.  In fact I
> > have even compiled code during this process!  Note:  Esd had to be
> > reniced to -10
> 
>         Do you have a SCSI drive that will read audio tracks at above 1x?
>         If so, which brand/model?
> 
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Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Peter Jones]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Aaron T Porter wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Shawn Hooton wrote:
> 
> > This is easy!  I have a PII 400 with 1 2GB SCSI2 HD and a 4x SCSI
> > toshiba CDROM and I encode, rip, and play mp3s all the time.  In fact I
> > have even compiled code during this process!  Note:  Esd had to be
> > reniced to -10
> 
> 	Do you have a SCSI drive that will read audio tracks at above 1x?
> 	If so, which brand/model?

Erm... I've got a plextor that'll do that, a couple of toshibas that'll do
that (mostly shipped by sun), an HP that'll do that...

The mechanism for reading CDs in an ATAPI drive and a SCSI drive are
fundamentally the same thing.  In fact, most everything else is too --
ATAPI is sending SCSI commands over an IDE bus.

 -- Peter

THE MAGIC WORDS ARE SQUEAMISH OSSIFRAGE

Re: CD ripper/MP3 encoder

[Jens Axboe]

On Wed, Feb 09 2000, Peter Jones wrote:
> The mechanism for reading CDs in an ATAPI drive and a SCSI drive are
> fundamentally the same thing.  In fact, most everything else is too --
> ATAPI is sending SCSI commands over an IDE bus.

And in fact 2.3 uses the exact same code to do ripping from
SCSI and ATAPI drives.

-- 
*  Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
*  Linux CD-ROM Maintainer
*  http://www.kernel.dk