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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: Dave Reisner <d@falconindy.com>
Cc: "Karel Zak" <kzak@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Bächler" <thomas@archlinux.org>,
	util-linux@vger.kernel.org, "Sami Kerola" <kerolasa@iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] uuidd: use pkg-config to find systemd-deamon support
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 14:57:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201401071457.21365.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140107185154.GB580@rampage>

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On Tuesday 07 January 2014 13:51:54 Dave Reisner wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 01:44:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Tuesday 07 January 2014 05:19:35 Karel Zak wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 10:55:35AM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> > > > >> We already have such a cyclic dependency, since udevd depends on
> > > > >> libblkid+libuuid, and findmnt (from util-linux) depends on
> > > > >> libudev.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >  .. and nobody complains, good point :-) Thanks!
> > > > >  
> > > > >     Karel
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, now that I know you care about these things, I am
> > > > complaining.
> > > > 
> > >  :-)))
> > >  :
> > > > It has caused me (minor) trouble once already.
> > >  
> > >  It's possible (first time) to compile util-linux without libudev,
> > >  compile systemd/udevd and then again recompile util-linux with
> > >  libudev.
> > >  
> > >  IMHO libudev is very useful for findmnt and lsblk to get info about
> > >  devices.
> > >  
> > >  Note that uuidd is absolutely unnecessary if you don't have huge SAP
> > >  installation (-- it means unnecessary for 99% of the all Linux users).
> > 
> > on a semi-related matter, it'd be nice if we could easily build
> > util-linux such that we only get the libraries.  the plethora of
> > configure flags that control utils is a nightmare to manage, and i'm not
> > sure there's a flag for every utility (i haven't checked myself, so i
> > could easily be wrong).
> > 
> > if that were in play, the circular loop would be easy to address -- build
> > util-linux once just for its libs, then udev/systemd, then util-linux
> > again.
> 
> We do this in Arch already to provide a 32bit libraries on 64bit
> systems:
> 
> https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h
> =packages/lib32-util-linux

thanks, that illustrates my point exactly :).  those make targets are esoteric 
if not internal to automake.  relying on them externally sucks.

> A quick grep through the git repo shows that I could get rid of the
> --without-ncurses flag, too.

pretty sure there are a bunch of configure checks that apply only to utils.  
pam and ncurses both come to mind.
-mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-07 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-06 23:39 [PATCH] uuidd: use pkg-config to find systemd-deamon support Sami Kerola
2014-01-07  8:58 ` Karel Zak
2014-01-07  9:38   ` Thomas Bächler
2014-01-07  9:54     ` Karel Zak
2014-01-07  9:55       ` Thomas Bächler
2014-01-07 10:19         ` Karel Zak
2014-01-07 18:44           ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-07 18:51             ` Dave Reisner
2014-01-07 19:57               ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2014-01-08  9:21             ` Karel Zak
2014-01-08 20:37               ` Sami Kerola
2014-01-08 20:44                 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-08 22:28                   ` Sami Kerola
2014-01-09  8:54                     ` Karel Zak
2014-01-09 16:56                     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-10 14:29                       ` Sami Kerola
2014-01-07 11:20 ` Karel Zak

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