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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@gmx.de>,
	util-linux@vger.kernel.org, Isaac Dunham <ibid.ag@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about hardcoded binary paths (swapon / mkswap)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:19:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150402161952.GB22171@vapier> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150402082000.GC2097@ws.net.home>

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On 02 Apr 2015 10:20, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:12:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On 01 Apr 2015 23:38, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:06:52PM +0100, Ruediger Meier wrote:
> > > > > > Maybe both cases also with or without fallback $sbindir, /sbin or
> > > > > > $PATH.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess we should agree how somthing like this should be handeled
> > > > > > in general. "eject" is also using hardcoded "/bin/umount".
> > > > >
> > > > > seems like $PATH should always be used.  if you broke $PATH, well
> > > 
> > > Yes, agree.
> > >  
> > > Note that we already have and use FS_SEARCH_PATH in mkfs, fsck and
> > > mount (libmount), see --enable-fs-paths-default and  --enable-fs-paths-extra.
> > 
> > what's the reason for having FS_SEARCH_PATH anymore ? 
> 
> If I good remember then the reason is that the helpers does not have
> to be installed in standard PATH. Well, you're author of this thing
> :-)

i wrote the code to make it a configure option, but the actual behavior predates 
me.  i'm interested more in the behavior, not the exact configure option.

looks like mkfs added it during the 2.2->2.5 transition, but otherwise no 
details in the bundled NEWS that i saw.  oh well.

> > neither tool is set*id, 
> > and mkfs/fsck generally live in /sbin.  i guess if you're non-root and have 
> > /sbin/mkfs hardcoded in a script, then dropping FS_SEARCH_PATH might break 
> > existing code.
> 
> for systemd based distors the path should be also modified, we have
> all in /usr and /sbin and /bin are symlinks only.

but they'll still be in $PATH ?

> > > Maybe we can use it use FS_SEARCH_PATH also for mkswap in swapon, or use it
> > > as fallback.
> > 
> > my preference would be to not move more tools into that system and allow any 
> > more implicit lookups to leak out.
> 
> I'm happy that for example mount(8) does not waste time with all PATH,
> but it cares about /sbin only. IMHO it's fine that mkfs, mount and
> fsck assume *helpers* on specific place. The mkswap is different, it's 
> standard command and it's expected in PATH.

mount makes sense as it's set*id and we can't trust users to not be evil :).
-mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-02 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-01 11:42 question about hardcoded binary paths (swapon / mkswap) Ruediger Meier
2015-04-01 13:38 ` Isaac Dunham
2015-04-01 16:17   ` Ruediger Meier
2015-04-01 20:10     ` Mike Frysinger
2015-04-01 21:06       ` Ruediger Meier
2015-04-01 21:38         ` Karel Zak
2015-04-02  1:12           ` Mike Frysinger
2015-04-02  8:20             ` Karel Zak
2015-04-02 16:19               ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2015-04-02 19:15                 ` Karel Zak
2015-04-02 22:50                   ` Ruediger Meier
2015-04-03  1:15                   ` Mike Frysinger
2015-04-03  8:52                     ` Karel Zak
2015-04-03 23:16                       ` Mike Frysinger
2015-04-02 17:28               ` Isaac Dunham
2015-04-01 22:23         ` Mike Frysinger

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