From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, stefanha@redhat.com,
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH 1/3] shared memory: Define shared memory regions
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:37:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190214163707.GE2617@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190214115807.2bab4efb.cohuck@redhat.com>
* Cornelia Huck (cohuck@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:37:56 +0000
> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > * Cornelia Huck (cohuck@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:06:25 +0000
> > > "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So these are all moving this 1/3 forward - has anyone got comments on
> > > > the transport specific implementations?
> > >
> > > No comment on pci or mmio, but I've hacked something together for ccw.
> > > Basically, one sense-type ccw for discovery and a control-type ccw for
> > > activation of the regions (no idea if we really need the latter), both
> > > available with ccw revision 3.
> > >
> > > No idea whether this will work this way, though...
> >
> > That sounds (from a shm perspective) reasonable; can I ask why the
> > 'activate' is needed?
>
> The activate interface is actually what I'm most unsure about; maybe
> Halil can chime in.
>
> My basic concern is that we don't have any idea how the guest will use
> the available memory. If the shared memory areas are supposed to be
> mapped into an inconvenient place, the activate interface gives the
> guest a chance to clear up that area before the host starts writing to
> it.
I'm expecting the host to map it into an area of GPA that is out of the
way - it doesn't overlap with RAM.
Given that, I'm not sure why the guest would have to do any 'clear up' -
it probably wants to make a virtual mapping somewhere, but again that's
upto the guest to do when it feels like it.
> I'm not really enthusiastic about that interface... for one, I'm not
> sure how this plays out at the device type level, which should not
> really concern itself with transport-specific handling.
I'd expect the host side code to give an area of memory to the transport
and tell it to map it somewhere (in the QEMU terminology a MemoryRegion
I think).
Similarly in the guest, I'm expecting the driver for the device to
ask for a pointer to a region with a particular ID and that goes
down to the transport code.
> Another option would be to map these into a special memory area that
> the guest won't use for its normal operation... the original s390
> (non-ccw) virtio transport mapped everything into two special pages
> above the guest memory, but that was quite painful, and I don't think
> we want to go down that road again.
Can you explain why?
Dave
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > index 836ee5236939..7f379bca932e 100644
> > > --- a/content.tex
> > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > @@ -2078,6 +2078,8 @@ virtio:
> > > #define CCW_CMD_READ_VQ_CONF 0x32
> > > #define CCW_CMD_SET_VIRTIO_REV 0x83
> > > #define CCW_CMD_READ_STATUS 0x72
> > > +#define CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS 0x14
> > > +#define CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS 0x93
> > > \end{lstlisting}
> > >
> > > \subsubsection{Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio
> > > @@ -2170,7 +2172,9 @@ The following values are supported:
> > > \hline
> > > 2 & 0 & <empty> & CCW_CMD_READ_STATUS support \\
> > > \hline
> > > -3-n & & & reserved for later revisions \\
> > > +3 & 0 & <empty> & CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS and CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS support \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +4-n & & & reserved for later revisions \\
> > > \hline
> > > \end{tabular}
> > >
> > > @@ -2449,6 +2453,72 @@ command. Some legacy devices will support two-stage queue indicators, though,
> > > and a driver will be able to successfully use CCW_CMD_SET_IND_ADAPTER to set
> > > them up.
> > >
> > > +\subsubsection{Handling Shared Memory Regions}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Shared Memory Regions}
> > > +
> > > +The CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS command allows the driver to discover shared memory
> > > +regions provided by the device, if any.
> > > +
> > > +The driver provides a pointer to a 4096 byte buffer that is filled out by
> > > +the device:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > + struct shared_regions_info {
> > > + be64 num_regions;
> > > + struct shared_region_desc regions[];
> > > + };
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +The buffer contains 0 or more shared region descriptors, as specified
> > > +by \field{num_regions}. If the devices does not provide shared regions,
> > > +\field{num_regions} is 0. Otherwise, the shared region descriptors have
> > > +the following format:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct shared_region_desc {
> > > + be64 addr;
> > > + be64 len;
> > > + u8 id;
> > > + u8 pad[3];
> > > +}
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +\field{addr} is the guest-physical address of the region with a length of
> > > +\field{len}, identified by \field{id}. The contents of \field{pad} are
> > > +unpredictable, although it is recommended that the device fills in zeroes.
> > > +
> > > +To activate or deactivate a shared memory region, the device uses the
> > > +CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS command. It takes the following payload:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct shared_region_ctrl {
> > > + u8 id;
> > > + u8 activate;
> > > + u8 pad[2];
> > > +}
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +\field{id} denotes the shared memory region that is the target of the command,
> > > +while \field{activate} specifies whether the region should be activated (if 1)
> > > +or deactivated (if 0). When activated, the device makes the guest-physical
> > > +address of the region available as a shared memory region.
> > > +
> > > +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Handling Shared Memory Regions}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Shared Memory Regions}
> > > +
> > > +The device MUST reject the CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS and CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS
> > > +commands if not at least revision 3 has been negotiated.
> > > +
> > > +The device MUST NOT read from or write to the region before it has been
> > > +activated by the driver or after it has been deactivated by the driver.
> > > +
> > > +If the driver reads from or writes to an address specified to a region that is
> > > +not activated by the driver, it MUST treat this read or write as a normal
> > > +read or write operation.
> > > +
> > > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Handling Shared Memory Regions}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Shared Memory Regions}
> > > +
> > > +The driver MUST NOT treat the guest-physical address of a region as a shared
> > > +memory region before it has activated it or after it has deactivated it.
> > > +
> > > \subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Operation}
> > >
> > > \subsubsection{Host->Guest Notification}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Operation / Host->Guest Notification}
> > --
> > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
>
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-11 11:41 [virtio-comment] [PATCH 0/3] Large shared memory regions Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-01-11 11:41 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH 1/3] shared memory: Define " Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-01-11 12:15 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-11 12:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-15 10:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-15 11:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-16 10:56 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-16 20:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-11 21:52 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-13 18:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-14 10:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-14 16:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2019-02-14 17:43 ` Frank Yang
2019-02-15 11:07 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-15 11:19 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-15 12:31 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-18 15:28 ` Halil Pasic
2019-02-15 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-15 12:28 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-15 12:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-15 12:37 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-15 12:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-15 13:50 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-15 13:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-15 14:02 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-15 14:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-15 15:14 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-15 21:42 ` Halil Pasic
2019-02-15 22:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-15 12:51 ` Halil Pasic
2019-02-15 13:33 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 15:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-11 15:29 ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-11 16:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-01-11 17:57 ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-15 9:33 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-13 2:25 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-02-13 10:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-14 3:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-01-11 11:41 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH 2/3] shared memory: Define PCI capability Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-02-13 2:30 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-01-11 11:42 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH 3/3] shared memory: Define mmio registers Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2019-02-13 2:33 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-02-13 16:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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