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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	stefanha@redhat.com, virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	eperezma@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH RFC] virtio: introduce VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOP
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 06:12:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201227061119-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88f1134c-e1ca-e8e7-2fa6-9d6e1ca68d79@redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 02:45:28PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > I tend to say, that from a perspective of the driver, all requests that
> > are available, and not yet used, are in-flight. So we have to be very
> > careful when wording this requirement, to avoid misunderstandings. I
> > don't think the first RFC is good enough. I will think some more about
> > this.
> 
> 
> Yes, I agree. The problem is that the spec doesn't describe how device work,
> so if we want to be more accurate, it might require some work not only for
> stop but also for e.g reset (something like in flight has been used by the
> spec in that case).

You probably mean the DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET description, right?

	For example, the driver can't assume requests in flight will be
	completed if DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET is set, nor can it assume that
	they have not been completed.  A good implementation will try to
	recover by issuing a reset.

yes, DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET is unfortunately underspecified which likely
is related to the fact it is not widely implemented.

-- 
MST


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-27 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18  4:23 [virtio-comment] [PATCH RFC] virtio: introduce VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOP Jason Wang
2020-12-18 10:15 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefano Garzarella
2020-12-21  3:08   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-21 11:06     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-12-22  2:38       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-21 21:33 ` [virtio-comment] " Halil Pasic
2020-12-22  2:36   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22  6:50     ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-22  7:30       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22 12:14         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-22 12:51           ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22 15:54             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-23  2:48               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-25  7:38                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-27 10:00                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28  6:21                     ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-28  7:01                       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-28 12:30                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  9:04                           ` Jason Wang
2021-01-12 10:54                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-01-13  3:35                               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 13:35                         ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-30  8:15                           ` Jason Wang
2021-01-11 18:16                             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-12  3:27                               ` Jason Wang
2021-01-12 12:13                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-13  2:52                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-01-14 12:00                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-28  6:47                   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 13:20                     ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-30  8:03                       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-24  4:52             ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-24  5:51               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-25  3:18                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-25  6:45                   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-27 11:12                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-12-28  7:05                       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-28 12:27                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  8:57                           ` Jason Wang
2021-05-03  9:02 ` [virtio-comment] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-05-06  2:51   ` Jason Wang
2021-05-05 13:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-05-06  7:26   ` Jason Wang

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