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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, shahafs@nvidia.com,
	virtio@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 1/7] net-features: Add requirements document for release 1.4
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 18:15:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230606180853-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230601220305.587034-2-parav@nvidia.com>

On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:02:59AM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> Add requirements document template for the virtio net features.
> 
> Add virtio net device counters visible to driver.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  net-workstream/features-1.4.md | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 net-workstream/features-1.4.md
> 
> diff --git a/net-workstream/features-1.4.md b/net-workstream/features-1.4.md
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..03b4eb3
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/net-workstream/features-1.4.md
> @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
> +# 1. Introduction
> +
> +This document describes the overall requirements for virtio net device
> +improvements for upcoming release 1.4. Some of these requirements are
> +interrelated and influence the interface design, hence reviewing them
> +together is desired while updating the virtio net interface.
> +
> +# 2. Summary
> +1. Device counters visible to the driver
> +
> +# 3. Requirements
> +## 3.1 Device counters
> +1. The driver should be able to query the device and/or per vq counters for
> +   debugging purpose using a control vq command.
> +2. The driver should be able to query which counters are supported using a
> +   control vq command.

why does it matter for requirements whether it's a control vq?


what matters is whether they have to be synchronized
with a given queue - I get it they don't have to.

> +3. If this device is migrated between two hosts, the driver should be able
> +   get the counter values in the destination host from where it was left
> +   off in the source host.

we don't cover migration currently don't see how this is a spec
rquirement. unless maybe it's justification for 4?
so maybe it means there needs to be a way to set counters?
so there's no need to mention migration - just that it
should be possible to move counters between devices.

> +4. If a virtio device is group member device, a group owner should be able
> +   to query all the counter attributes using the admin queue command which
> +   a virtio device will expose via a control vq to the driver.


this seems weirdly specific.
what is the actual requirement?


> +
> +### 3.1.1 Per receive queue counters
> +1. le64 rx_oversize_pkt_errors: Packet dropped due to receive packet being
> +    oversize than the buffer size

with mergeable buffers how does this differ from 2?

> +2. le64 rx_no_buffer_pkt_errors: Packet dropped due to unavailability of the
> +    buffer in the receive queue
> +3. le64 rx_gro_pkts: Packets treated as guest GSO sequence by the device

what does this mean exactly? packets before or after they are combined?

pls stick to device/driver terminology not guest/host

> +4. le64 rx_pkts: Total packets received by the device

including dropped ones or not?

> +
> +### 3.1.2 Per transmit queue counters
> +1. le64 tx_bad_desc_errors: Descriptors dropped by the device due to errors in
> +   descriptors

since when do we drop packets on error in descriptor?
we just as likely stall ...

> +2. le64 tx_gso_pkts: Packets send as host GSO sequence

same questions as gro

> +3. le64 tx_pkts: Total packets send by the device

sent

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-01 22:02 [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-01 22:02 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 1/7] net-features: Add requirements document for release 1.4 Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-06 22:28     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 23:08         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  9:03             ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-07 20:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:39             ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-07 20:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:53                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-07  9:31   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 2/7] net-features: Add low latency transmit queue requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:35     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 3/7] net-features: Add low latency receive " Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:44     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 4/7] net-features: Add notification coalescing requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:46     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 5/7] net-features: Add n-tuple receive flow steering requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  3:35   ` Heng Qi
2023-06-02  3:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  4:39       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Heng Qi
2023-06-06 12:08         ` Heng Qi
2023-06-06 21:49           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-12 14:35             ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-12 17:26               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  2:28                 ` Heng Qi
2023-06-13  8:57                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13  9:16                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-06-13 11:33                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-07  2:47   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-07  3:22     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  2:57   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Heng Qi
2023-06-13  4:16     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  5:04       ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-13 12:24         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  3:43           ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-14  3:48             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  3:53               ` Heng Qi
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 6/7] net-features: Add packet timestamp requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 7/7] net-features: Add header data split requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08 14:57     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  3:06 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] [PATCH requirements 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Heng Qi
2023-06-06 22:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:56   ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  2:49 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-07  3:33   ` Parav Pandit
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-07-24  3:34 Parav Pandit
2023-07-24  3:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 1/7] net-features: Add requirements document for release 1.4 Parav Pandit
2023-08-08  8:16   ` David Edmondson
2023-08-14  5:17     ` Parav Pandit
2023-08-14 11:53       ` David Edmondson
2023-08-14 11:56   ` David Edmondson

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