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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio@lists.oasis-open.org" <virtio@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 6/7] net-features: Add packet timestamp requirements
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 19:08:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230606190617-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB548136CBDE586D6DBD54CB9DDC52A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 10:51:25PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 6:40 PM
> 
> > > +## 3.5 Packet timestamp
> > > +1. Device should provide transmit timestamp and receive timestamp of the
> > packets
> > > +   at per packet level when the device is enabled.
> > > +2. Device should provide the current free running clock in the least latency
> > > +   possible using an MMIO register read of 64-bit to have the least jitter.
> > 
> > wow these reads are expensive. what is the actual requirement?
> > 
> I don't understand the question.

placing something in a register is a solution. what is the
requirement?

> > > +3. Device should provide the current frequency and the frequency unit for
> > the
> > > +   software to synchronize the reference point of software and the device
> > using
> > > +   a control vq command.
> > 
> > let's leave mechanism out of it. I think you are trying to say this is async to data
> > vqs? and cvq is fine.
> >
> There are two clocks running, one of cpu where driver is running, other one is in the device.
> And timestamps are done by the device based on its clock.
> 
> So driver can convert the device timestamp to driver cpu timestamp.
> This is like one time query to know conversion mechanics.
> 
> > > +### 3.5.2 Receive timestamp
> > > +1. Receive completion must contain a packet reception timestamp when the
> > device
> > > +   is enabled for it.
> > > +2. The device should record the received packet timestamp at the closet
> > ingress
> > > +   point of reception from the network.
> > > +3. The device should provide a receive packet timestamp in a single DMA
> > > +   transaction along with the rest of the receive completion fields.
> > 
> > how large do these need to be? ok for timer to overflow?
> >
> Will add it. Usually 8B.
> But overflow after 30+ years or so is common norm.
> 
>  
> > 
> > why do you mention migration in counters but not in timers?
> > 
> > is it ok for time to go back?
> 
> Should add it for timer too.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-01 22:02 [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-01 22:02 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 1/7] net-features: Add requirements document for release 1.4 Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:28     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 23:08         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  9:03             ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-07 20:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:39             ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-07 20:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:53                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-07  9:31   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 2/7] net-features: Add low latency transmit queue requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:35     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 3/7] net-features: Add low latency receive " Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:44     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 4/7] net-features: Add notification coalescing requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:46     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 5/7] net-features: Add n-tuple receive flow steering requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  3:35   ` Heng Qi
2023-06-02  3:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  4:39       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Heng Qi
2023-06-06 12:08         ` Heng Qi
2023-06-06 21:49           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-12 14:35             ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-12 17:26               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  2:28                 ` Heng Qi
2023-06-13  8:57                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13  9:16                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-06-13 11:33                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-07  2:47   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-07  3:22     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  2:57   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Heng Qi
2023-06-13  4:16     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  5:04       ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-13 12:24         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  3:43           ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-14  3:48             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  3:53               ` Heng Qi
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 6/7] net-features: Add packet timestamp requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 7/7] net-features: Add header data split requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08 14:57     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  3:06 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] [PATCH requirements 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Heng Qi
2023-06-06 22:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:56   ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  2:49 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-07  3:33   ` Parav Pandit
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2023-07-24  3:34 Parav Pandit
2023-07-24  3:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 6/7] net-features: Add packet timestamp requirements Parav Pandit
2023-08-14 11:59   ` David Edmondson

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